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#31 Re: Guns N' Roses » Nothin' » 2 weeks ago
When did HTGTH go private? How long ago did that happen?
#32 Re: Guns N' Roses » Nothin' » 2 weeks ago
LOL
I remember when Japan said HOB VHS was delayed & look what happened there. We could get these tomorrow, next week or never. Hard to be too disappointed when my expectations are non existent anyway.
Now if it were 20 years ago I'd probably be pissed off.
#33 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tapes of old demo's uploaded to Archive. UYI promo interviews ect » 2 weeks ago
It's interesting that all the other demos on the tape with that version of Bad Apples date from 1985/86. It's certain that Bad Apples doesn't go so far back based on the information we have but also on the lyrics alone.
Just a wild guess: a demo of Bad Apples had leaked on the radio in late May/early June 1991. The version on the web.archive tape sounds to me like it could have been recorded from the radio, and someone/fans put that recording on to a tape with unreleased pre-AFD demos that were circulating by then and some of them were titles rumoured to be included on the next GN'R album, so they were mislabeled as UYI demos.
I forgot about this. I can definitely believe the song might have leaked on the radio and fans managed to tape it. Unless fans recall radio playing it, our best bet for proof would be finding an article in a rock mag reporting the leak, which I kind of doubt they would, as gnr would have gone for them legally and sent C&D letters.
#34 Re: Guns N' Roses » Nothin' » 3 weeks ago
Should contain the first unheard vocals for a long time
#35 Re: Guns N' Roses » Atlas » 3 weeks ago
It's good they are coming out but I just can't get exited about this at all lol, too many years too late.
I do hope they keep Brain's drum take however, the sound of the tom drums on the RTB leaks were immense.
The Tom mics were AKG C]414's on the top and SM57's underneath. All the bottom mics are were out of phase. The kick drum mic they normally used was a U47 FET Neumann I believe. 30'ish Mics on the drums alone lol.
#36 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tracks missing from the leaked CD's » 3 weeks ago
Shacklermyrye wrote:Bill Brasky wrote:I know it's not Slash but sounds like Slash esq solo to me.
Is that what you're are hearing also ?
No the sound effect thing that sounds like a dentist drill lol
Now i look foolish but shit happens.
After a second listen yes i can hear the dentist drill esq sound effect.
Nice attention to detail on your part.
Very interesting also !The fact Hardschool was originally worked on before nugnr era and continued to be worked on during the nugnr lend credence to Tooth Puller being carried over also especially with the dentist drill sound effect.
Honestly the first time anyone has mentioned that to me.
I obviously don't know that Tonto it is toothpuller but I do wonder if the noise could be there as a shot or way of making fun of Izzy maybe.
The first time I heard about Toothpuller came from before the DATS had been discovered..
The following appeared in Metalsludge in 2006. There was no way of really backing the veracity of it until the DATS were discovered years later. If someone made up the Dizzy quotes then they would have had to guess that there was a song called Toothpuller (which is unlikely) Thanks to the DAT photos we can say that the song did exist, that it did have vocals & that at least Dizzy thought it was awful...
“Izzy used to be a great songwriter- his contributions to Guns N’ Roses first album are phenomenal. But, its almost like the guy has lost the fire… I mean I saw the guy a couple years back in the studio… and he was showing me a song he had just written called "Toothpuller" – it was literally about him visiting the dentist and getting a tooth pulled out. [Dizzy then sings some of the lyrics] I mean… this is a guy who wrote some badass songs and now he’s writing about getting his tooth pulled… I mean come on… can you imagine Axl singing that live?’(Dizzy https://metalsludge.tv/classic/?p=30945 )
“in April 1995, Duff calls again: “I’m trying to write new songs for the next GN’R record. Come lend me a hand.” It’d been five years since I’d left Guns, but I told myself, “Well shit, after all, why not?” Duff and I wrote ten songs in one week, and also made demos of them. And I thought, “It’s so easy.” When you work with someone like Duff, who loves music in the same way you do, everything becomes simple.” (French Izzy interview, 2001)
Some other comments on the time....
“He's been writing; he wrote some stuff with Duff. He wants to write songs, but he doesn't wanna deal with the whole thing. And it took me a while to finally get to the point where I couldn't handle it either, y'know? He wants to write material, but he's not really sure what he wants to do. He's so laid back. He doesn't want to deal with any pressure. Izzy does what he wants to do.” (Slash Metal Hammer November 1995)
“We recorded 10 songs in eight days. It got me excited about music again. I realized how easy the whole process could be. Those sessions were fun and painless. We just had a great time.”(Izzy Los Angeles Daily News, March 20, 1998)
“I'm using a Music Man Stingray. I started using it onstage. I've always liked these basses. Actually, when we were trying to do the Guns album I broke this bass out, and it just sounded amazing. It's bigger and fatter sounding. (Duff Hit parader June 1999)
#37 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tracks missing from the leaked CD's » 3 weeks ago
Shacklermyrye wrote:Did a bunch of research on that time a few years back, Definitely would have spoken to Zombux about it.
If you think some of the CD era songs may have started from those sessions then listen to Tonto and tell me what you hear at 1:49
I know it's not Slash but sounds like Slash esq solo to me.
Is that what you're are hearing also ?
No the sound effect thing that sounds like a dentist drill lol
#38 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tracks missing from the leaked CD's » 3 weeks ago
Did a bunch of research on that time a few years back, Definitely would have spoken to Zombux about it.
If you think some of the CD era songs may have started from those sessions then listen to Tonto and tell me what you hear at 1:49
#39 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tracks missing from the leaked CD's » 4 weeks ago
Shacklermyrye wrote:FlashFlood wrote:If Canoga Park was one of the last songs Axl and Slash worked on, is it possible Slash took that song for the last Snakepit record under a real name and Axl considered it for the new band a la Metallica and Megadeth with Four Horsemen/Mechanix?
Possible I guess yeah. Ain't life grand was originally meant to be a gnr song called Burnout & Speed Parade was originally Nightcrawler (although they don't sound too much alike). So wouldn't surprise me.
There is an unreleased version of Burnout with Slash & I think Duff on bass with Iggy on vocals. They recorded that for a Les Paul tribute record that was shelved way back. Apparently Adler could never play it so that kind of nixed it being a Gnr song.
(edit) now I think about it Axl was clearly trying to evolve out of blues based rock music so I doubt he would have wanted to keep whatever Slash may have helped wright anyway, wouldn't surprise me if it became a Snakepit tune or even Fall To Piece's though
I wonder what the title of Back and Forth Again was when Axl was working on it. There is that clip of him whistling over the acoustic guitar demo of BAFA.
From the Making of the videos VHS? (I forget which one) For all we know thats what that park song was. That video also has that piano piece while he is talking about Dylan
#40 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tracks missing from the leaked CD's » 4 weeks ago
Shacklermyrye wrote:Bill Brasky wrote:Hey guys i got a thread over at badapplesforum trying to make a definitive list of unreleased cd era songs.
Not trying to do a shit thread bump nor offend my friends James or Bls, just want to get as much information and knowledge of the topic in one place.
So feel free to post your thoughts or correct me where I'm wrong over there.Threw this together a few months back on Dragon, just a theory on why it may be called that and why it's likely real.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnQJjbYi5QU&t=2s
Unrelated but I mention Canoga park in this video & I actually meant Central Park. I later looked into LastFM and found anyone can name a song whatever they want so i wouldn't put any stock in the Dragons Kiss title, but Dragon however is probably real.
Very well put together video and interesting. I wasn't expecting Captain and Teneal showing up in it. I'm going to share this and thank you.
I noticed you brought the Curly Shuffle DAT in Iron Mountain up over at badapples. The engineer was Critter (Chris) Snyder and the assistant engineer was Jer Blair (Jeremy Blair). Both worked together on Obsolete by Fear Factory the year before this In 98 (when Dave Dominguez was at Rumbo working with Guns) I believe they turned up after he left the project. As far as the name goes I'm sure its just a place holder but there is a song with that name by Jump 'n the Saddle Band as tribute to The Three Stooges, it's such an oddly weird name that i kind of suspect it comes from that.
The mix from The Village comes from March 2000 & will be way more complete than this DAT in that video as that is a 24 track SLAVE. There would have been 24 tracks on the Master as well but Drums (multiple mics) Bass ect would have pushed it over 24 tracks so engineers would link a second 24-track machine to the first one. That DAT in the video is from the second machine and likely contains guitar solo's and overdubs along with whatever electronic synths/ keys ect were added at the time (if any). I believe they used Neve consoles at Rumbo & definitely did at the Village.
