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It also turned out that he had 15-20 songs that were fully fleshed out songs . And that 3 discs worth of material that we heard about for years in the late 2000s was total bullshit.
I almost wish he weren’t so fucking lazy and would work on these (or any new songs) w/ Slash and Duff.
This is probably the most interesting one in terms of music and strong vocals. Still think the lyrics and chorus need to be tightened up but that’s nitpicking.
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When listening the first time, I was shocked they kept that Casio keyboard sound. Sweet baby Jesus.
Other than that, it's pretty good. Slash must have really liked it because he brought his A game to the solo.
Like all the other songs, it sounds like an unfinished song that was simply polished and released.
The post reunion years have revealed the true meaning of the A and B lists....
A list - Actual finished songs going on Chinese Democracy
B list - All the half finished songs, instrumentals, and fragments
Back in the prime years of the CD saga, fans assumed the A list was all the massive epics and the B list all the rockers.
I wouldn’t say that…I’d say we were promised “big guns” on CD2. The General, primarily, being hyped beyond what it should have been. I don’t think fans ever had a feeling AFD2 was coming with CD2. We just assumed the songs would be better.
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xbrownstonex wrote:Fernando really had the decency to put his fucking kid on the cover of nothin. this is really a new low for the band and i'd love to know what slash and duff think about this. they probably dont care anyway.
and everyone who's defending this shit (looking at soulmonster on mygnr) is a fucking idiot and an enabler.
I don't get why Axl feels so close to these people. They have always struck me as very low class. He keeps coming under the spell of questionable characters, it's very strange. Madly in love with Stephanie Seymor, a complete user and a nutcase, spent hundreds of thousands if not millions on that whole Yoda medium scam and now delegating his business affairs to complete incompetents.
How can a world famous rock star be so naive?
Slash & Duff are probably cringing on a daily basis, but they want that money to keep coming in. Old enough to not give a fuck about anything else.
Yeah the Yoda stuff showed how susceptible he was to all sorts of shenanigans. He could've just as easily fell into a cult.
How can a world famous rock star be so naive?
If the internet had existed in the 60s/70s, Beach Boys fans would've been asking this same question.
Blackstar wrote:Down By The Ocean was written by Izzy in 1995 (among other songs). But, according to Izzy, Axl contacted him some time in 2000 (or maybe early 2001) and asked him for the tapes. It's not clear if that means that Axl hadn't kept the songs at all or he was asking for the masters.
Regardless, since that song was written by Izzy, it's almost safe to assume that it would have been a full fledged song since 1995 or at least not a sketch in the form of Nothing that we heard in the locker leaks, unless Axl used just small elements of it (but that doesn't seem very likely).
Izzy was writing with Duff.
Per Chinese Whispers
"In April, 1995, Duff calls me again: 'I'm trying to compose new songs for the guys in GN'R. Come and give me a hand.' It made five [years] that I'd left Guns but I said myself: 'Well shit, after all, why not?' Duff and I wrote ten songs in the space of week. We even recorded them as demos." (French Izzy interview, 2001)
Which means Duff has the dat tapes too.In 2000 Axl was talking to Izzy and not Duff whose now back in gnr.
We have no idea the level of completion of any of the Izzy and Duff songs.
Is anything i written above not factually correct ?
In an alternate timeline there's a really interesting GNR album released in 1996.
faldor wrote:Not that I expected these songs to be smash hits but they don’t appear in the iTunes Rock charts yet. Never mind the overall top 200. Are they still too new? I tend to remember their other recent singles at least climbing the charts initially before they were forgotten. “Perhaps” especially since there was an actual music video.
I guess it was just too early, Nothin’ is now #1 on the iTunes Rock chart & Atlas is #2. They’re all the way up to #5 & 6 on the overall chart. Initial buzz is there, but it won’t last when they do nothing with it.
That's amazing and you're right...they'll sink like a lead balloon because there's any follow through.
Look what happened with Perhaps. It was actually getting some attention that first day or two and then....boom...it was over.
Bill Brasky wrote:sp1at wrote:it's not Down by the Ocean, which also wasn't Box
Based on what ?
Have you heard Down By The Ocean ?
Odd story
When I was doing my website years ago, people thought I was a trader, which I wasn't. I heard 10-15 seconds of that song from someone who thought I had other songs, which I didn't.
I don't remember much, but I think I'd know it if I heard it
Yeah this is how it happened back then. A select group of people on the forums were sent different clips....some got CITR (me included), some Atlas, some Hard School (Razz the famous receiver of this clip), and I think Silkworms. You and a few others must have got that one.
The 9 second CITR clip leaking out in the open is the only reason the full song leaked a few weeks later.
It was 18-19 years ago. It was validated officially by someone. I just followed advice back then and left it alone
Probably a smart move. TPTB didn't want anything else leaking out....it's why they went after Razz over the "Checkmate" clip.
The fan. base came really close to a huge leak happening.
It should've happened.
Robin Fink at least managed to release an album yesterday for the videogame he was involved in making.
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I gotta check this out.
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faldor wrote:faldor wrote:Not that I expected these songs to be smash hits but they don’t appear in the iTunes Rock charts yet. Never mind the overall top 200. Are they still too new? I tend to remember their other recent singles at least climbing the charts initially before they were forgotten. “Perhaps” especially since there was an actual music video.
I guess it was just too early, Nothin’ is now #1 on the iTunes Rock chart & Atlas is #2. They’re all the way up to #5 & 6 on the overall chart. Initial buzz is there, but it won’t last when they do nothing with it.
That's amazing and you're right...they'll sink like a lead balloon because there's any follow through.
Look what happened with Perhaps. It was actually getting some attention that first day or two and then....boom...it was over.
The slide has begun. Nothin’ is #7 now & Atlas 10. They peaked at 3 & 5. Still solid, but there’s always momentum when they release these songs & they do nothing with it.
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James wrote:faldor wrote:I guess it was just too early, Nothin’ is now #1 on the iTunes Rock chart & Atlas is #2. They’re all the way up to #5 & 6 on the overall chart. Initial buzz is there, but it won’t last when they do nothing with it.
That's amazing and you're right...they'll sink like a lead balloon because there's any follow through.
Look what happened with Perhaps. It was actually getting some attention that first day or two and then....boom...it was over.
The slide has begun. Nothin’ is #7 now & Atlas 10. They peaked at 3 & 5. Still solid, but there’s always momentum when they release these songs & they do nothing with it.
The pop, and subsequent slide are predictable. New songs targeted to an artist with a base of x-millions of subscribers will create a huge initial imprint. Everyone listens to the song when they get the notification on their phone, then moves on with their lives.
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Both songs were worth the wait and Nothin is a great song.
The outro vocals on Nothin sound like Axl from 2002.
It's GNR Christmas
When you reference “the wait was worth it,” do you mean the wait from Tuesday? Or the wait from 1999?
