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#21 Re: Guns N' Roses » Atlas » 2 weeks ago
jimmythegent wrote:Yeah 1 listen in, and they have not elevated this song beyond the earlier sessions sadly. First thing that jumped out was Duff is very prominent and busy. Will give it a few more spins before I make any final calls. So who's drumming do we know?
I think it's worse than that that, it's been downgraded.
The versions we heard from 00/01 sounded good to me but after letting this song sink in for a few years I think it did need something else like a bridge section, maybe a different outro section or just something.
This delivered none of that and made it worse, this version sounds so messy and cluttered, very similar to leak Catcher vs Album Catcher. I actually think it's worse than that because at least Catcher as a song is pretty complete and good. Atlas, still needed something extra, didn't get that and got downgraded across the board.
Also, hearing dueling guitar solos from Robin and Slash in the left and right channels at the end is bizarro world stuff.
I think the comparison to Catcher is very good (to a point). The leaks with Brian May on sound both sound crisp and uncluttered, and the released versions sound over cooked, cluttered and somehow lifeless. But Catcher at least is not ruined by a cripplingly loud bass stem that buries everything else.
#22 Re: Guns N' Roses » Nothin' » 2 weeks ago
If this is wrong blame gemini not me...
Physical Versions (Pre-order Information)
The official pre-orders for the physical versions of the "Nothin' / Atlas" single are set to begin on December 12, 2025.
You can use the official link hub below, which currently directs to streaming/digital platforms but will likely be updated with the store links once the pre-orders go live:
Official Singles Link Hub https://gunsnroses.lnk.to/nothinatlas
The physical formats available will include:
7-inch vinyl
Guns N' Roses store-exclusive cassette
Japan-exclusive SHM-CD
#23 Re: Guns N' Roses » Nothin' » 2 weeks ago
Ocean/sea are a recurring theme in post AFD stuff. Estranged, Madagascar, Oh My God, now Nothing.
#24 Re: Guns N' Roses » Nothin' » 2 weeks ago
sp1at wrote:Bill Brasky wrote:I don't doubt what you're saying i just question if the clip you heard was real or actually Down By The Ocean.
Can you describe to us what you heard ?
Roughly the year it was sent ?
Why you believe it to be real ?Do you understand where i coming from ?
It was 18-19 years ago. It was validated officially by someone. I just followed advice back then and left it alone
We did our website and we annoyed people, but I wasn't wanting to get into trouble back then. A few things came our way like that
I'd imagine your Dominguez interview annoyed them a little. Given what Dizzy said about the song I'm assuming the clip you were sent had Izzy on vocals and not Axl? If it had any vocals of course.
#25 Re: Guns N' Roses » Nothin' » 2 weeks ago
Shacklermyrye wrote:Yeah I like Nothing too, probably the best of the post CD songs to be fair
'On a restless sea' = Down by the ocean/Down by the sea? probably not but who knows. I remember Axl saying Fink played an SRV style solo on one song, I would imagine that was Nothing.
I had this thought too. A theory could be Down By The Ocean could have been a working title based on the island-sounding guitar lick. Seems like something Izzy could come up with. The big thing that goes against it is the demo had no mention of bodies of water in the lyrics. What are the writing credits?
I haven't seen credits anywhere. I know what you mean about island sounding lick
#26 Re: Guns N' Roses » Nothin' » 2 weeks ago
Yeah I like Nothing too, probably the best of the post CD songs to be fair
'On a restless sea' = Down by the ocean/Down by the sea? probably not but who knows. I remember Axl saying Fink played an SRV style solo on one song, I would imagine that was Nothing.
#27 Re: Guns N' Roses » Atlas » 2 weeks ago
I'm in the minority in that i really liked the versions of this on the locker leaks but wtf.
The mix and master are the worst of any single song they have ever released. The bass is too over powering in the mix. The cymbals are buried, it sounds fucking awful.
I like Nothing though.
#28 Re: Guns N' Roses » Nothin' » 2 weeks ago
Robin Fink at least managed to release an album yesterday for the videogame he was involved in making.
#29 Re: Guns N' Roses » Nothin' » 2 weeks ago
Shacklermyrye wrote:MrMojoRa wrote:Couple months ago. jarmo would do that off and on over the years without stating why. This has been the longest its stayed private.
He has no answers and is busy defending the band amidst the anger being spewed on his board.
Thanks.
The only reason I ask is that if it were a one off thing and started maybe a week ago it might suggest he knew this was coming (or at least suspected it) tbf i assume they are going to screw up every release too, so wouldn't surprise me if he did.
But if it happens on and off then it could be for any reason.
He posted the announcement of Atlas/Nothin in his news feed on 11/24 which led me to believe this actually would happen. He's usually silent until he confirms stuff himself.
He's super tight with Fernando, or at least was. I assume you already know this.
Yeah I know he is. There we go then, HTGTH going private in the future can maybe be seen as an indicator things are about to go wrong. lol
#30 Re: Guns N' Roses » Nothin' » 2 weeks ago
Shacklermyrye wrote:When did HTGTH go private? How long ago did that happen?
Couple months ago. jarmo would do that off and on over the years without stating why. This has been the longest its stayed private.
He has no answers and is busy defending the band amidst the anger being spewed on his board.
Thanks.
The only reason I ask is that if it were a one off thing and started maybe a week ago it might suggest he knew this was coming (or at least suspected it) tbf i assume they are going to screw up every release too, so wouldn't surprise me if he did.
But if it happens on and off then it could be for any reason.
