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#81 Re: Guns N' Roses » Perhaps (2023) to Drop » 108 weeks ago
Song is a grower and catchy as hell. I think the biggest hurdle to this being a mainstream hit is that it’s almost impossible to make out what Axl is saying in the chorus - people like to sing along to big hits in the car and that chorus I just can’t see that happening.
People sing along to Eminem's "Rap God," I don't think this is beyond them.
#82 Re: Guns N' Roses » Perhaps (2023) to Drop » 108 weeks ago
you have Izzy singing "Y'could be mine" while Axl's singing "Youcould be mi-e-ine."
One of the best parts of that song.
It still annoys me that Duff doesn't sing the backing vocals in the outro the way Izzy recorded them on the original studio version.
#83 Re: Guns N' Roses » Perhaps (2023) to Drop » 108 weeks ago
It's also just a really catchy earworm of a song, Perhaps.
#84 Re: Guns N' Roses » Perhaps (2023) to Drop » 108 weeks ago
One of my favourite things about GN'R is how they vary stresses, emphasis and… syllabic structure? I'm not sure what you'd call it…
The outro to YCBM is a great example; most bands would just sing "You could be mine" over and over, same stresses and emphasis. But GN'R mixes it up; you have Izzy singing "Y'could be mine" while Axl's singing "Youcould be mi-e-ine." And then during the last bit of the song he's basically singing it every possible way you can sing it – singing "mi-e-ine" in an ascending melody, then a lower melody, etc etc. It's one of the things that makes GN'R more sophisticated than other bands, I think.
And he's doing it again with the chorus for Perhaps:
Got a lot more than I bargained for - 9 syllables, emphasis on the "got" and the "lot"
You forgot about the others you were fighting for – 13 syllables, cheeky little run of triplets at the start of the line
Sold out to the ones that you once ignored – 10 syllables, emphasis comes on the second and fifth syllables, "out" and "ones"
You used to be a little crazy, now there's so much more – 14 syllables, with this rapid quickfire run from "you" through to "so" and then a slower triplet.
I'm probably not using the right technical terms there, but what I like is that Axl's playing around with structure.
#85 Re: Guns N' Roses » Perhaps (2023) to Drop » 108 weeks ago
I don't understand why people complain about the chorus; I think it's great.
#86 Re: Guns N' Roses » Perhaps (2023) to Drop » 108 weeks ago
His *newest* vocals were Rock the Rock and he sounded great. I don’t know why it’s a stretch to think he couldn’t do it on these recordings. Hard Skool used those early vocals and you can tell
He had a killer rasp on his Live Era/Big Daddy vocal recordings but never sang that way live around that time.
Oh yeah, I don't deny that he's perfectly capable of laying down studio vocals now, it's just that it's become an article of faith among GN'R fans that he laid down a single vocal take for each song back in 1999 or whatever, and that he never recorded anything else. Which is insane; of course there are multiple vocal takes in the vaults.
#87 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 108 weeks ago
misterID wrote:Went back and read Brain’s comments on Seven and he turned it and The General in before their first show. The way he described the demo sounds pretty much like Circus. Just an abstract and crazy piece of music around a drum beat. It would make sense they combined it. They did that with Shacklers and Robin talked about Axl cannibalizing demos
I'll go to my grave saying Better was initially two song ideas merged into one.
That's always how Axl's worked, though. 14 Years was two separate song ideas bodged together into one. Coma is basically three or four song ideas bolted together. The outro to November Rain might as well be from a separate song (indeed we know it is because it isn't there on the early demos). It's just more apparent that he's bolting disconnected riffs together on Chinese Democracy because you don't have that tonal through line of Slash, Izzy and Duff stitching it all together.
#88 Re: Guns N' Roses » Perhaps (2023) to Drop » 108 weeks ago
Sounds like new vocals. Guess that was more than a sound check and Axl was singing
It is possible that he did multiple vocal takes in the 90s/00s, y'know…
#89 Re: Guns N' Roses » Perhaps (2023) to Drop » 108 weeks ago
Actually while we're on the subject of the current line-up, can we get some new emoji in here? The Axl one still has the 2010 pornstar 'tache, and we have emoji for Ashba and Bumblefoot but not Melissa?
#90 Re: Guns N' Roses » Perhaps (2023) to Drop » 108 weeks ago
elevendayempire wrote:Shacklermyrye wrote:I like the video, didn't see that coming at all
The video's great. This is basically what the Better video was originally intended to be – a nice showcase of all the members of the band, including Fortus, Dizzy, Melissa and Frank. Clever use of the soundcheck footage to get around the problem you often have with these "live footage of a song they haven't played yet" thing – the band are actually seen singing the correct lyrics.
Explains the film crew they had in Europe, some of the shots in the video were also in the Facebook video's they been putting out
The Better video ended up being completely fucked 'cos they wanted to introduce the current line-up (Bumblefoot etc) while also showcasing the significant contributions of those who'd left (like Buckethead). But then Finck and Brain upped and left too, and so suddenly they had this video introducing… five guitarists and two drummers. Which didn't really help the "revolving door" narrative, or the "Axl can't find anyone good enough to replace Slash" naysaying.
Anyway, yes: Perhaps. Don't they all look like one big happy family in it?
