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#71 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 154 weeks ago

monkeychow wrote:
elevendayempire wrote:

It's funny, Monsters is a more immediately "catchy" song, but after several listens The General has definitely grown on me to the point where I think I prefer it. I really like the off-kilter, horror movie sound.

Me too.

I love the "rant" part of monsters in scream voice, but there's not a lot of song to go with it - just kinda a little bit of a rap chorus. I mean I like it but it gets old quick waiting for that part each listen.  I think the high parts of The General are more haunting. It's funny too as on first listen the general didn't really work for me, but now I really like it.

I think it needed a "breakdown" or "locomotive" style outro though. Like slash seems to be warming up to something right when it ends.

I love the scream/solo bit, that's dead good. Though I do wish that Axl had written a second verse with different lyrics instead of doing his "just repeat the first verse and chorus twice, whack in a solo, job's a good 'un" thing. He's done that on a couple of recent songs.

#72 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 154 weeks ago

It's funny, Monsters is a more immediately "catchy" song, but after several listens The General has definitely grown on me to the point where I think I prefer it. I really like the off-kilter, horror movie sound.

#74 Re: The Sunset Strip » The Beatles to release “Now and Then”” » 155 weeks ago

James wrote:

Had it not been for George Harrison shit canning the idea due to tensions with McCartney, this song would've been finished and released during the Anthology series in the late 90s.

IIRC it wasn't just creative tension, Harrison recognised that the audio quality of the source material just wasn't up to snuff.

#75 Re: The Sunset Strip » The Beatles to release “Now and Then”” » 155 weeks ago

I wonder if Macca's going to get Peter Jackson to use the same whizzy AI tech he used to extract Lennon's vocal for "Now and Then" and apply it to "Free As a Bird" and "Real Love." The shitty tape quality of Lennon's vocals on those always rankled, though I suppose you could argue that it gave him an appropriately ghostly quality.

#77 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 156 weeks ago

dave-gnfnr wrote:
monkeychow wrote:
dave-gnfnr wrote:

The gun is safe in fact it’s hid away inside of you

I think this line might be

"The dirty secret that you hid away inside of you"

9

You nailed it , nice job.  Updated lyrics

The monsters in hell with me

A Tour da force of an evil passion
A broken heart that was out of fashion
A dynamic duo in your big attraction
My early warning was your satan laughing

I was there for you
It’s all I could do
Oh but it’s over now
Oh but it’s over now

I was there for you
It’s all I could do
Oh but it’s over now
Oh but it’s over now

The monsters in hell with me

You stole my soul with the devils romancin'
All alone when your bedroom dancin’
I thought I could feel somebody worth havin’
But in the end I guess you’re good for the damin’

I was there for you
It’s all I could do
Oh but it’s over now
Oh but it’s over now

The monsters in hell with me


The more I did what I did I did for you
There's no excuses for the hell on earth you put me through
I never get how much I cared but I cared for you
To make it better there was nothing that I wouldn’t do
I doubt there’s anybody living who wants to know the truth
The dirty secret that you hid away inside of you
Whoever thought I’d be around to shed a light on you
Well heres the story baby I got nothing else to do

I was there for you
It’s all I could do
Oh but it’s over now
Oh but it’s over now

Thanks to Mon Rom (Dondanov) and Monkey Chow for help with the ranting part In the second half of the song and Gagarin and Dark for some corrections on the parts I could not figure out.

I'm wondering if it's actually: "The monster's in here with me" and "But in the end I guess you’re good for the damage"

#79 Re: Guns N' Roses » Post UR top 2 Favorite Gnr forum moments » 156 weeks ago

The top forum moment was, objectively, the time Axl himself came on one of the forums and the first thing he did was call one of his own fans a cunt.

#80 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General confirmed next » 156 weeks ago

monkeychow wrote:

It's quite common in some bands to credit everyone as songwriters.

For example RHCP and U2 tend to do this regardless of who the actual first songwriter is.

There's pros and cons either way.

Dave Mustaine has sometimes spoken against that model - pointing out why should he credit people as songwriters who just happened to be sitting around in a room behind a drum kit when he wrote a new guitar riff on the spot.

On the other hand you get situations like Estranged - where a guitar line significantly elevates what could have been considered a completed musical piece without them. 

Likewise when songs have been jammed in a group it can get complex - if a singer copies parts of a background guitar part in the vocal melody or a guitar solo rearranges parts of the vocal line - who wrote what. Sometimes its easier to just give everyone and nod and not worry about the drama of who made what first.

Queen used to have massive drama over songwriting credits in the 70s (most notably when Roger Taylor made a shitload of money from I'm In Love With My Car simply because it was the b-side to Bohemian Rhapsody). Then in the 80s they started just crediting everything to "Queen" and divvying up the proceeds equally.

That worked 'cos they had a stable line-up, of course.

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