James wrote:

Sky Dog wrote:

Tommy has backed that up...RTB didn’t work and they thought the album was done.

In hindsight that is the point of no return.

You could make a case for the Ezrin "3 songs" fiasco but the damage hadn't been done yet. That can be walked back, everyone take a breather, and negotiate a release with the label.

He couldn't/wouldn't stick to his guns and all momentum was lost. They never got it back.

The project needed competent management from day one...or at least at the moment that the album was ready in 2001 and 2002.

Someone like Azoff would've had the album on the launch pad before the opening Jungle scream at the VMAs.

Baffling levels of incompetence allowed a major rock band on a major tour launching a comeback on national television to not have a single song....much less an album...to be in stores....and then allow the singer to shit can the idea of a coming album in an interview right after the performance.

Then it gets worse....

He abandons his own band in Philly to fend for themselves.

A year later they accidentally stumble into a nationwide buzz when IRS leaks on the Trunk show. Literally within hours, they stomp this buzz to death in its cradle.

Just unbelievable stupidity.

I can't imagine how frustrating this shit must have been for people like Tommy and Robin.

The situation was so much worse than fans believed at the time.

Like I said...they needed real management.

Let's be brutally honest. Axl should have 100% retired in 1995 and never attempted any comeback.

Can you cite another coup attempt where the insurrectionist weren’t armed in the past 400 years?

Every single one of those shits who rioted in the Capitol should be prosecuted, fined and jailed. No exceptions.

But January 6th has been exaggerated and overhyped from day one.

Legitimately forget if there was a version of this before the album. Not sure if it was part of Skewrl or some other leak.

Only thing I’ll say is I’m kind of shocked Axl left Bucket’s solo (which is fantastic). I do wonder what the science was (or lack thereof) of which Bucket solos got re-recorded and which didn’t.

mitchejw wrote:

Smoking Guns wrote:

If you don’t have an id, you probably not informed enough to vote anyway. This is such a stupid talking point.

Yep...there are certain people who don't deserve to vote.....despite their legal right to do so...

You probably want zero registration voting too and vote where ever you want voting and any other measure to make counting hard and cheating easy.