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#51 Re: Guns N' Roses » What happened to Axl's voice? » 84 weeks ago
dave-gnfnr wrote:faldor wrote:I watched this LONG video awhile back. It’s long but interesting if you have the time. A classically trained singer hearing and evaluating Axl’s voice for the first time. Not necessarily the best performance to evaluate and his voice is clearly not her cup of tea, but she is fascinated by it and sees the immense potential.
I never understand why some people say this France version of SCOM isn't the best performance to evaluate when its probably one of the best versions of SCOM voice was of the 90s. At least she didnt do the awful Toyko one.
I dont even think there are many ones from the 80s that he does better than this one
Live versions are tough to evaluate, but I guess it’s more raw and there’s nowhere to hide. She said in the comment section how she listened to the studio version afterwards and it was completely different and more to her liking.
right because live is their actual voice where as the studio they use autotune and things like that to fix their voices.
#52 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 85 weeks ago
The leaks is probably what changed the album.They just said fuck it and put everything that leaked on CD and a couple of extra tracks, so the follow up albums all had unheard songs
I think scraped would have been a B side but they threw it on CD as punishment for everything leaking and said yeah take this shit song instead of something better.
#53 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 85 weeks ago
It wasn’t a double album from 99-01. Songs like better, soul monster, the general, scraped, sorry and maybe even if the world would be on the second disc. Time went by and they borrowed from the second album by 08.
If the world was always set to be on the first disc
Even before if the world leaked out there was a rumored CD track listing that listed "IF" as one of the songs
#54 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns n roses played the general » 85 weeks ago
Personally what I'd prefer more than anything is leaks or boxset release of CD material with the musicians who actually wrote those songs. However, it's very possible we never hear that.
Failing that I'd really like them to continue with releasing Slash/Duff reworked CD era songs, preferably as a bigger release and not a dripfeed. The dripfeed approach is really old and boring.
Failing that.... give us something completely new. I personally dont think what these guys write and produce in their 60s will be that interesting so if what that Mayhue guy said about there being Appetite and UYI era songs that were never finished I'd prefer those.
Failing that... just release more proshots in good quality like the 91 Ritz.
Really though. I just wish they'd ditch the secrecy and silence. It's not cool or mysterious. It's annoying. They aren't the pinnacle of pop culture like they were in the early 90s and they don't have the mystique of the early CD years. You have an older fan base with disposable income, talk to them and give them things to buy that they want.
We will hear it but it will be after Axl is dead and Fernando cashes in all those songs for a huge box set pay day
#55 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 85 weeks ago
Now that Monsters is out, i don't know why anyone would still hang on to that 2011 cellphone tech recording. You can't hear much under that crowd noise but you can certainty hear a pre slash guitar lead pretty clearish.
They should just leak the Bucket and Robin versions of these songs since these new versions are out in the wild. there is no reason to even hold on to them anymore
#56 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 85 weeks ago
dave-gnfnr wrote:none of which was walker lol
thanks for proving my pointOh and Axl S was involved so axl s was a hoarder and he is trying to make the moral high ground over Dark
just more proof how full of crap he is.
None of us had the music until Rick sent it. I recall one night, having to wait for Rick to get home from work, miraculously about 15 minutes after Rick said he was home in chat, an email showed up. Like axl s said we didn't have jack shit unless we lucked out and coerced a clip out of someone in the investor group or walker. I remember walker saying at one point long after the leaks that he never had everything. With no evidence, I assume he was numbers and the leaker who was starting to leak on this site before the chairman took over on discord.
walker was 3$P who leaked a few songs, and we know it was Walker bc those tracks he fucked with like he did all the songs he leaked.
#57 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 85 weeks ago
CD should have been a double album like he intended.
General is my favorite but what impresses me about Monsters is that it pretty seamlessly weaves 3-4 different genres of music together. Really impressive. Funny, these are exactly what I pictured them sounding like
Or if it was a double album have disc one be all the straight up rocker songs and ballads like hard school, the blues, perhaps etc then the second disc be the more industrial sounding songs.
Then all the left over songs could have been the b sides of the CD singles.
#58 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 85 weeks ago
Chinese Democracy should have been something like this
CD
Better
Hard School
Atlas
Perhaps
If the World
CITR
If the World
Sorry
Madagascar
The Blues
TWAT
The General
Monsters
Prostitute
#59 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 85 weeks ago
dave-gnfnr wrote:James wrote:Welcome Cliff.
Absolutely. I immediately thought of this when listening to both tracks that first day...how old forum friends like Tommie, Robman, EFISH, and God knows who else had waited years just praying to hear a clip of one of these big guns but died before getting the chance.
It makes me despise the hoarding crap a hell of a lot more than I used to. How many extra years do these people need to get off on having something other fans don't? Why wasn't 10-15 years enough? Some have had it longer. Is there some magic number of years where peak orgasm is reached?
Brodie/Live Free is currently in a coffin with his hoard.
Here is the thing, hearing some of these songs it makes you wonder if the reason they have not leaked is bc they are not very good and the haorders dont want to give that away so they can keep making money off of them.
Its bad enough they hoard these songs but its even worse they sell them.
Have any of the so called big guns ever been that great?
This I love was rubbish.
Prostitute was average at best
The General is think is terrible overall.There's a finite number of nerds like you and I or those willing to drop small fortunes on tracks. If I've learned anything about this fanbase, it's that once mutual benefits cease, people go into business for themselves. I would bet more than these fuckers are charging for a song, one of these 'hoarders' is going to have their id and ego get the best of them. Not to sound cruel, but Live! Free's hoard is doing him a lot of good now. The Beatles just released a track, so Chinese Democracy starts now? Soon might be the word....relatively.
plus once one person starts selling songs they all will want to cash out before they cant get anything for them
#60 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 85 weeks ago
Welcome Cliff.
people died without ever listening to what could have been released when they were alive.
Absolutely. I immediately thought of this when listening to both tracks that first day...how old forum friends like Tommie, Robman, EFISH, and God knows who else had waited years just praying to hear a clip of one of these big guns but died before getting the chance.
It makes me despise the hoarding crap a hell of a lot more than I used to. How many extra years do these people need to get off on having something other fans don't? Why wasn't 10-15 years enough? Some have had it longer. Is there some magic number of years where peak orgasm is reached?
Brodie/Live Free is currently in a coffin with his hoard.
Here is the thing, hearing some of these songs it makes you wonder if the reason they have not leaked is bc they are not very good and the haorders dont want to give that away so they can keep making money off of them.
Its bad enough they hoard these songs but its even worse they sell them.
Have any of the so called big guns ever been that great?
This I love was rubbish.
Prostitute was average at best
The General is think is terrible overall.