mitchejw wrote:

Smoking Guns wrote:

If you don’t have an id, you probably not informed enough to vote anyway. This is such a stupid talking point.

Yep...there are certain people who don't deserve to vote.....despite their legal right to do so...

You probably want zero registration voting too and vote where ever you want voting and any other measure to make counting hard and cheating easy.

misterID wrote:

mitchejw wrote:

I’d agree with you if you’d simply acknowledge our election participation rates are shit.

I see this for what it is…widling away our electorate with a clear goal in mind. Let’s do voter ID….cool…but you better make sure everyone who deserves one has one.

You’d have near 100% support if you did that.

That’s how i know this is partisan….

I agree, but people need the gumption to get the ID. There are already organizations and places to help people get their ID. I think, and this is just my opinion, but if you're not motivated to go get an ID you're most likely not going to vote anyway.

If you don’t have an id, you probably not informed enough to vote anyway. This is such a stupid talking point.

mitchejw wrote:

misterID wrote:

I don't think there was any significant fraud, but all cable networks and radio stations use that as a legal defense. You just don't hear about it when they're sued. Maddow and Lawrence got busted in a lot of lies during the Trump years. It's basically, they're not journalists, but entertainers and aren't meant to be taken seriously. The fact Joy Reid has a job is mind boggling.

I think voter fraud has the ability to sway a local election, though. And voter suppression is the left's voter fraud conspiracy. Neither are significant in any way.

Well if it’s not significant then why all the new laws addressing it?

Because dip shit each vote is a sacred thing and should be treated as such. Plus a few hundred here and there across a whole state CAN change an election

slashsfro wrote:

LOL, cmon man you're smarter than this to fall for Tucker's BS.  The Republican Secretary of State has certified the results multiple times and they have people on the ground to count, etc.  And  they are whole lot more reliable than Tucker Carlson.

For those who don't know, Carlson got sued (technically FNC) and their defense was he more or less makes up shit.

A judge just said the same thing about Rachel Maddow. But I don’t think the Secretary of State disputes these findings and he also happens to support the new voting laws. Also the recounts just simply recounted the same duplicate ballots anyway though they claim they didn’t. There were shenanigans going on. Was it enough to give trump a victory? Who knows. But none of this shit is acceptable

Easily one of, if not the biggest abominations on the album. After desperately waiting for a proper version to compare to the original cassette leak, it was just gross.

This coming from someone who doesn’t necessarily mind Ron’s solo, maybe because I never found May’s that compelling.