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#571 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 217 weeks ago

misterID wrote:
mitchejw wrote:

It'll happen again...trust me. Only the pawns are getting in trouble. Nobody important, no leaders, nobody of any significance will pay any price and so it'll happen again. You can count on it.

Antifa will riot again. Mark my words, buildings will burn, people will die. You can count on it. See how that works?

And Antifa members identity as Antifa, they have splinter groups. They exist the way white supremacist exist. They even have Antifa handbooks. They call themselves blackbloc, also. This is you being a leftist stooge.

omg...is this for real? black bloc is a technique not a group.

And your trump supporter analogy is fucking stupid. Of course a Trump supporter is wearing Trump gear.

lol...ok....in order to support Trump you have to drape yourself in his name and all his gear made in China. MAGA

Just because they're a Trump supporter doesn't make them a domestic terrorist. Antifa subscribe to a violent ideology, specifically. You wouldn't know a white supremacist is a white supremacist on the street, either. There are Hispanic white supremacist. I mean, your logic is just ridiculous.

Oh god....someone's been watching a ton of Fox News again...Antifa subscribe to a violent methodology but Trump supporters who force themselves into congress to prevent an election certification are peaceful? Tell ya what...since we're just gonna slap everyone on the wrist and pretend like this didn't happen...wouldn't that just embolden the boogeyman? Antifa could go and kill everyone based on the precedent the Trumpers laid for them.

There's a checklist of things...the more you check off...the more likely you are a white supremacist. It usually starts with an accusation that if you're a democrat, you must be lazy and unemployed. Drives through patriarchy and ends with American flags as your profie pic and an argument over whether Ford or Chevy is better....

#572 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 217 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

You’re right. Riots happened in LA last weekend where police officers were attacked. Over a year of riots with our VP even bailing some out of jail. You’ve bitched about Rittenhouse how many times, and completely ignored the self defense angle even when The NY Times writes a 5 page article concluding Rittenhouse was attacked and acted in self defense.

Uh huh...a kid that drove to a different city in a different state and obtained a gun illegally....if we ignore all that then you win the argument hands down. He'll got off too...I"m sure...

You’ll deny Antifa exists and excuse BLM trying to murder the President. Then fabricate arguments to respond to because you know you defended and supported all this nonsense up until January 6th, and then immediately after January 6th. One riot in a year you seem focused on, and ignore all the others.

Antifa doesn't exist as you define it. Let me ask you something...how do you know you're looking at an 'antifa member' when you see on? Do you judge based on race or gender? Seriously how do you know? When I see a Trump supporter I always know who they are because they're wearing a whole fucking clown suit with Trump's name on it and they're waving flag that say his name on it. And they usually say stupid things like 'America first' but literally have no fucking idea what that means. Nor can they articulate what that really means or what it looks like.

So do tell...how do you know it's Antifa? Do you even know what the word means? What's a fascist to you and are you in favor of it?

I’m just glad Trump’s kids aren’t making millions off of the Trump brand anymore. Hunter Biden’s art being sold for 500k a pop is totally on the up and up. Biden’s quid pro quo was ok. Why don’t you care about anything Mitch?

How are the Trump kids not making money off the Trump brand? The art market is stupid and I know nothing about Hunter Biden's work but I've seen stupid rich people spend millions on what look to me like finger paintings. Who has the time to keep up with Hunter Biden's art work? Jesus Christ.

Why aren’t you marching in the streets for BLM after 100 blacks were shot in your city last weekend?  Don’t you care?

It'll happen again...trust me. Only the pawns are getting in trouble. Nobody important, no leaders, nobody of any significance will pay any price and so it'll happen again. You can count on it.

That’s my best attempt at following your logic. My brain hurts

I'm not sure what these things have to do with each other.

#573 Re: Guns N' Roses » Predictions for the upcoming shows? » 217 weeks ago

Sadly...I have to pick the same old song and dance. We know who they are at this point. The only logical motivation for any of this is money. It's not to create something or stand out for any reason.

#574 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 217 weeks ago

It'll happen again...trust me. Only the pawns are getting in trouble. Nobody important, no leaders, nobody of any significance will pay any price and so it'll happen again. You can count on it.

#575 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 217 weeks ago

Then don't make 4,000 word posts full of excuses about why that shit was ok...

You wanna talk about hyperbole....go read the last few posts....jesus christ...

#576 Re: Guns N' Roses » WTF happened to…Catcher in the Rye » 217 weeks ago

tejastech08 wrote:
James wrote:
Sky Dog wrote:

Tommy has backed that up...RTB didn’t work and they thought the album was done.

In hindsight that is the point of no return.

You could make a case for the Ezrin "3 songs" fiasco but the damage hadn't been done yet. That can be walked back, everyone take a breather, and negotiate a release with the label.

He couldn't/wouldn't stick to his guns and all momentum was lost. They never got it back.

The project needed competent management from day one...or at least at the moment that the album was ready in 2001 and 2002.

Someone like Azoff would've had the album on the launch pad before the opening Jungle scream at the VMAs.

Baffling levels of incompetence allowed a major rock band on a major tour launching a comeback on national television to not have a single song....much less an album...to be in stores....and then allow the singer to shit can the idea of a coming album in an interview right after the performance.

Then it gets worse....

He abandons his own band in Philly to fend for themselves.


A year later they accidentally stumble into a nationwide buzz when IRS leaks on the Trunk show. Literally within hours, they stomp this buzz to death in its cradle.

Just unbelievable stupidity.

I can't imagine how frustrating this shit must have been for people like Tommy and Robin.

The situation was so much worse than fans believed at the time.

Like I said...they needed real management.


Let's be brutally honest. Axl should have 100% retired in 1995 and never attempted any comeback.

This is an amazing post. Probably one of the best I've seen this year.

#577 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 217 weeks ago

Seems like you wouldn’t mind if it happened again much.

If these were ‘antifa’ or ‘BLM’ you’d want them all killed on the spot.

#578 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 217 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

Can you cite another coup attempt where the insurrectionist weren’t armed in the past 400 years?

Every single one of those shits who rioted in the Capitol should be prosecuted, fined and jailed. No exceptions.

But January 6th has been exaggerated and overhyped from day one.

k

#579 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 217 weeks ago

Anyone else excited for the next attempted coup attempt in August?

Everyone prepare your excuses and explanations accordingly.

#580 Re: Guns N' Roses » Wtf happened to…Sorry » 217 weeks ago

FlashFlood wrote:

Legitimately forget if there was a version of this before the album. Not sure if it was part of Skewrl or some other leak.

Only thing I’ll say is I’m kind of shocked Axl left Bucket’s solo (which is fantastic). I do wonder what the science was (or lack thereof) of which Bucket solos got re-recorded and which didn’t.

I’m not aware of a pre-album version I would love to hear it. I did enjoy this one seems like a bit more than others around he did. Does anyone know if they’ve ever played this song live? I’m just curious how it will translate.

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