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#571 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 270 weeks ago
No one is turning into teenage girls...this is all in your own mind.
The only juvenile thing said in this thread is your post about balls.
I realize some of these discussions can get a tad heated...an understatement....but sometimes you need to let it go and not take it so personally.
An example...
Recently.. don't remember when...Flagg replied to you in a post. It wasn't mean, mocking,etc. The next time you replied to him, it was to get a dig in and start the bickering again.
Why not use an opening like that to hit the reset button and ease the tension?
No one is innocent in this....I'm just using this as an example.
Just because people disagree and have a lengthy history arguing doesn't mean it always has to be like this.
I mean...we can't have a discussion about Afghanistan without being labeled teenage girls?
Really?
Just be consistent in your analysis here James'...if you think my post was out of line, ok I accept that and I'll tone it down. BUT...you had one poster in this thread call Kamala a pussy and another calling Biden a coward. I'm not the only one who escalates.
#572 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 270 weeks ago
mitchejw wrote:misterID wrote:He literally blamed the Afghan military by saying they had an air force, but he pulled out the maintenance crews which grounded them. He's lying. The "buck stops with him" but he's taking no responsibility. He went as low to blame the civilians, the same people who are packed on an airport runway and falling from planes.
you're losing your shit dude...no accountably for anyone but Biden. Pathetic...no one over the course of the last 20 years deserves any blame...the fact that after 20 years Afghanis couldn't get their shit together...
Either way...shit went down in Syria that didn't bother you. This bothers you...really strange...
Who is saying that?
Everyone here knows who invaded Afghanistan, who kept it going, and who is wrapping it up.
Not a single person on Earth is saying Biden did everything.
He is to blame for the current cluster fuck and how the crisis continues to spiral out of control.
While it's not relevant to what's happening now, he helped construct the Patriot Act and helped the Bush administration sell both wars to the rest of Congress, the media, and the American people.
You can't fantasy book/retcon Biden as this doe eyed innocent dove who was shell shocked by events and it all came out of left field.
That dog won't hunt.
Speaking of Syria, were you giving Trump the benefit of the doubt and blaming his predicament on Obama? If not, why?
Not doe eyed...and for those who thought Biden was a pussy I would think this would be evidence of the opposite...
This was the inevitable result of a failed investment. An investment that only looked good until you stopped investing in it.
I'll never give Trump the benefit of the doubt on anything. I brought it up only as a point of reference for those who feel the need to turn into teenage girls. Syria was a disaster....Afghanistan is about to be a disaster/is a disaster.
One lesson we refuse to learn as Americans is what the terrorists tried to tell us on 9/11...The United States of America has made a few mistakes along the way.
#573 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 270 weeks ago
misterID wrote:He literally blamed the Afghan military by saying they had an air force, but he pulled out the maintenance crews which grounded them. He's lying. The "buck stops with him" but he's taking no responsibility. He went as low to blame the civilians, the same people who are packed on an airport runway and falling from planes.
Yeah....he's in over his head and like Flagg pointed out, his advisers/cabinet aren't handling it any better.
It's a tad reminiscent of Clinton's first two years in office when Aspen and Christopher were minding the store.
Maybe worse.
Anyways...
I do partially blame the civilians. We're trying to get out....and they're in our way.
I know they're scared....it's chaos....the unknown...but the focus has ever on getting the Americans and Europeans our of there.
I'm with Flagg regarding civilians/refugees. Leave em.... it's over.
Any people who gave legit intel to our forces over the years....give em a golden ticket.
I might make exceptions for people such as those girls who work on robotics/AI that social media is having conniption fits over.
That's it.
You can't save everyone. What makes one person better than any other?
This is why we need a Reagan or Kennedy....hell even a Bush.
Tough decisions have to be made soon.
No sob stories...no hard luck stories....no pity parties.... we're leaving period.
If you make things worse as we get closer to wrapping up evacuation and it becomes similar to Mogadishu, the gloves come off and special forces take care of business to get em out of there.
ID pointed out the gender and racial stuff we were funding there. The Fonz himself couldn't jump a shark any higher than that.
It was a sign we don't even know what we're doing there. I don't think they give the tiniest of shots what nonbinary is...and if they did...they got bigger fish to fry.
I have a question....
While we can do whtthe fuck we want, at what point does it become 'legal' to shoot unarmed civilians?
Example....
There's only a few planes left and it's obvious no more are coming. Mass panic happens and 50k or so civilians flood the airport to the point nothing can move.
What do you do?
I'm gonna guess the longer it was delayed the better al-qaeda would be prepared to take advantage. What a horrible set of images...but this was all done with such cohesion that it's pretty obvious how prepared they were for this moment.
think of the opportunity for revenge...to humiliate Obama's VP who is now P for killing Osama. Man did this stars align for them.
I'm not sure who is in charge anymore over in the eastern hemisphere. I think the Afghans had a lot to gain by continually pitting us against each other...to prolong the conflict...to play both sides for as long as they could.
Anyway...what a sad series of events.
#574 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 270 weeks ago
Coward wouldn't even take a question.
you're a child
#575 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 270 weeks ago
He literally blamed the Afghan military by saying they had an air force, but he pulled out the maintenance crews which grounded them. He's lying. The "buck stops with him" but he's taking no responsibility. He went as low to blame the civilians, the same people who are packed on an airport runway and falling from planes.
you're losing your shit dude...no accountably for anyone but Biden. Pathetic...no one over the course of the last 20 years deserves any blame...the fact that after 20 years Afghanis couldn't get their shit together...
Either way...shit went down in Syria that didn't bother you. This bothers you...really strange...
#576 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 270 weeks ago
He actually blamed Trump. These are progressive Twitter talking points.
This is a lie, the option was not going back to a 20 year war, this is about his failure to create an exit plan.
No...it's not...Afghanistan has been a shit show for 20 years. This is how it was always going to end.
This is about ending and endless war and I'm good with it. I just wish there was a better plan for refugees but after 20 years if you still don't care enough to fight for your own country...wtf are we supposed to do?
#577 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 270 weeks ago
mitchejw wrote:are you saying your balls don't feel big enough?
Yes Mitch....that's exactly what is being conveyed there.
It's time to accept that we're not getting shit on our investment in the middle east over the past 20 years...make me your heel if you must.
#578 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 270 weeks ago
are you saying your balls don't feel big enough?
#579 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 270 weeks ago
James wrote:Everyone predicted he was our next Jimmy Carter.....
https://i.imgflip.com/4sg0hf.jpg
He's our next Gerald Ford....he's gonna take the fall for all the fuck ups and since he ain't worth a shit either way, will get tossed out on his ass.
Over reaction James....stop...breath and think a minute....why in the ever living fuck does it take hours to undo what took 2 decades to build?
ok I'll answer my own question then...talk about failure government programs....this has to be the poster child...
#580 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 270 weeks ago
Everyone predicted he was our next Jimmy Carter.....
https://i.imgflip.com/4sg0hf.jpg
He's our next Gerald Ford....he's gonna take the fall for all the fuck ups and since he ain't worth a shit either way, will get tossed out on his ass.
Over reaction James....stop...breath and think a minute....why in the ever living fuck does it take hours to undo what took 2 decades to build?
