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#541 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 213 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

I'm sorry it was so strenuous for you, mitch. I thought the "Those who identify as white in combination with another race, however, increased by 316%" was pretty self explanatory. Don't worry, you'll figure it out.

oh gee...please explain how I register to you as a statistic more than I do on this message board...

Canada and Australia are working hard to bring in Afghanis. I still haven't heard what we're doing. Except Biden saying the Taliban wasn't going to take over, now he's disappeared to Camp David without talking to the press......

I'd love for Biden to bring some here so you can start bitching about them in a year.

#542 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 213 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

A couple of things... This Afghan pullout is a disaster. I don't know if Trump would have been any different, but not even making preparations to get allies out, people who will executed, is unfathomable. Why didn't we get out the women and girls? Just ignoring the whole humanitarian angle, which I can't seem to, but depriving the Taliban of women is a smart tactical maneuver, making them sitting ducks when they have to start bringing women in for their "wives."

I'm glad we're leaving, but holy shit, what a disaster.

"The number of people who identify as white alone declined from 223.6 million in 2010 to 204.3 million in 2020, marking an 8.6% decline. It is the first time the category saw a drop in the nation’s history and was also the only race category to see a population decline.

Those who identify as white in combination with another race, however, increased by 316%, with the white alone or in combination with another group coming in at 235.4 million."

The census is no longer using majority/minority. It seems people are taking this as the end of white men, again, but seem to ignore the growth is with Hispanics who many identify as white (the census doesn't count that or biracial people who identify as white) and Asians. Interracial marriage is skyrocketing between white men and Hispanic women and white men and Asian women. White women are having fewer children. Guess the two groups of women who are having the most children? I don't understand the appeal of identity politics, it's never as clear as people make out. Whenever it's brought up in a debate that Hispanics identify as white, there's like a meltdown. One reporter called it depressing news. Why? isn't a diverse "white America" good? Nearly every article I've read neglects to add that context.

Boy this is hard to follow...and it seems you've written variations of this post dozens of times.

WTF is a diverse 'white america'?

#543 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 214 weeks ago

dalethirsty wrote:
James wrote:

eating pretzels drenched in mustard

that's it right there, brother. funny this thread is talking about malls... watched mallrats the other day. not the best movie, but an awesome flick that captures that whole era perfectly.

for me, first priority was the pretzel stand, then eb games or babbages to play a few vidya demos and check out the merch.

Yup...I've seen this movie tons of times. I love the quote at the beginning with Shannon Doherty where the boyfriend was playing video games and he references the Hartford Whalers. She leaves him by the end of the scene. Never see her again. lol.

#544 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 214 weeks ago

James wrote:

I love how mall culture morphed into something else the older you got....

A little kid....toy stores
A bigger kid.... arcades and record stores
A teenager....friends and cruising for girls
Adult.... merely a place to shop in general... especially holidays
Middle aged and older....who gives a fuck about malls....


On a different subject....

Markie Post died today. I had a huge crush on her when my mom and dad watched Night Court when I was a kid.

Hard to believe she was 70.

Ah yes…the arcade, the sounds, the smells, the sights…

The only thing that gets me close to that old feeling is the casino in adulthood.

I had a bit of a love-hate relationship with the mall because I was I was so poor I couldn’t afford anything. I would watch my friends spin freely the money that their parents gave them to go and enjoy the mall. That always pissed me off. But there were some times that I got to participate and man did I participate in the arcade! I cannot get enough of the ninja turtles game as well as some old-school wrestling arcade games. I recently went to the science Museum in Minneapolis Minnesota and they have an exhibit there that has every old-school game from the arcade and home systems available for play. It’s truly a sight to behold. The beginning of the exhibit is the birth of video games with all the extremely old games. If you are ever in Minneapolis I highly recommend going and seeing it.

#545 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 214 weeks ago

At the same time, those wait and see people are why things are getting insane again. They deserve some blame and some accountability again.

#546 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 214 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:
slashsfro wrote:
misterID wrote:

There were a lot of antoi-vaxxers to begin with, so it's not so much political. A lot of people are afraid of how quickly it was developed. Some people just don't like shots.


But most people have had multiple vaccines (measles, chicken pox etc..) so I never really got the anti-vax part of that argument AT ALL.  And this thing has been out since December.  There's more than enough data to indicate that yes you should get yourself vaccinated.  I mean, if you're unvaccinated NOW, that's on you and no one else.


You'd be surprised how many people don't get vaccines after adult hood and the requirements dissipate.  Again, how many people get their flu shot every year?  At the start of COVID I did a poll here and it was about half.  The figures google gives me says the same amount is representative of the US as a whole. 

I'm 100% pro-vaccine and got my first shot in January.  If they make this an annual booster like the flu shot (and I think they will), I'll get it annually just like I do with the flu shot.  But people are people.  Anywhere from 9 - 50 million people get the flu annually in the US, significantly more than what is alleged to be the COVID positivity, and prior to COVID, the CDC and NIH were saying 100k people died annually from the flu in the US.  Yet half the country doesn't feel any need to get that vaccine annually. 

COVID is here to stay, and like all illnesses, it will primarily affect the elderly and those with weakened immune systems.  You can't stay in lockdown or masking forever.  And we all live in western democracies, so forcing injections in the arm of every citizen isn't going to happen.  I agree, at this point it's a personal choice whether to receive the vaccine.  My personal stance on that has been made clear.  I don't know what the actual ceiling of vaccinated people will be, allegedly 70% of US adults have had at least one shot, though the CDC and states did such a shit job collecting data, I don't know how accurate that claim is.  But I suspect we're soon at the apex of people willing to get their shot.  Sure, federal mandates for employees (if it survives court challenges) and the military will bounce numbers up a few points if we're lucky, but there's not much more carrot to give.    People should never expect not to suffer the consequences of their decisions.  At this point, I got no sympathy for anyone who refuses the vaccine and becomes ill.  It's entirely avoidable.  So let's stop babying people and let them pay the price for their choices.

For once…we agree on something.

If we can’t force people to get the vaccines then let them roll the dice with their consequences. It’s time to move on. The defiant will be defiant…the longer we have this debate, the more power they get. The longer we have mask mandates, the more fired up they get. The Dems will be on the losing side of this if they persist.

#547 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 215 weeks ago

monkeychow wrote:

I don't quite get why people wouldn't want shots.

No disrespect intended to anyone.

To me we live in a wondrous age where rather than just having to accept diseases and pandemics like they would have in the olden days we can actively limit them and fight against them and become immune to them.

I will take a yearly shot, or a weekly shot if it keeps me from ending up in hospital.

I think we've forgotten how great it is that we can invent this stuff.

Nahh…that’s not what this is about…it’s about FrEedOm and belittling everyone else who is qualified on any given matter and proclaiming yourself an expert on everything.

#548 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 215 weeks ago

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/artic … depression

Hilarious. No matter how they measured it Trump is still the worst.

#549 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 215 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:
Axl S wrote:
mitchejw wrote:

Where were you a page or two ago when he shit all over me?


Yeah, in an argument with you about a topic.

Today he makes a not controversial post about how sensationalist cable news is and you jump in with a potshot. Stop looking for fights and stirring shit.

There are two people in this thread constantly bitch about the main stream media and then link articles from the main stream media as sources when making an argument.

It’s ridiculous. It Hass to stop.

ID just posted an argument it was eerily similar to an article posted by the main stream media just a day or two before about the White House is messaging on coronavirus.

It’s hard to take it seriously when you talk out of both sides of your mouth.

#550 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 215 weeks ago

Axl S wrote:
mitchejw wrote:
Axl S wrote:

Dude, politically you and I reasonably align. It is obvious that I am far far away from Flagg on a lot of shit. So in your long arguments I often agree with where you're coming from.

But why you got to jump in on him like that with these potshots and stir the pot like this? It's petty as fuck. Grow up and stop trying to derail these threads with your bullshit.

Where were you a page or two ago when he shit all over me?


Yeah, in an argument with you about a topic.

Today he makes a not controversial post about how sensationalist cable news is and you jump in with a potshot. Stop looking for fights and stirring shit.

There are two people in this thread constantly bitch about the main stream media and then link articles from the main stream media as sources when making an argument.

It’s ridiculous. It Hass to stop.

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