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#521 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 213 weeks ago
James wrote:Everyone predicted he was our next Jimmy Carter.....
https://i.imgflip.com/4sg0hf.jpg
He's our next Gerald Ford....he's gonna take the fall for all the fuck ups and since he ain't worth a shit either way, will get tossed out on his ass.
Over reaction James....stop...breath and think a minute....why in the ever living fuck does it take hours to undo what took 2 decades to build?
ok I'll answer my own question then...talk about failure government programs....this has to be the poster child...
#522 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 213 weeks ago
Everyone predicted he was our next Jimmy Carter.....
https://i.imgflip.com/4sg0hf.jpg
He's our next Gerald Ford....he's gonna take the fall for all the fuck ups and since he ain't worth a shit either way, will get tossed out on his ass.
Over reaction James....stop...breath and think a minute....why in the ever living fuck does it take hours to undo what took 2 decades to build?
#523 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 213 weeks ago
This is an indictment on our bloated and feckless military more than anything...don't sing me songs of misery about your time over there if you didn't actually do anything.
#524 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 213 weeks ago
No one is blaming Joe for the war. I'm blaming him for this catastrophic exit and surrender.
Just read this:
@RobbieGramer
Ronald Neumann, the former US ambassador to Afghanistan, told me: “There’s a difference between the Biden decision to leave, and the Biden execution of the decision. The decision to leave is arguably justifiable. The execution of that decision is a lamentable disaster.”
It's also just come out that Biden refused to allow maintenance crews in to help the Afghan air force, which grounded the jets and denied them their greatest advantage.
That's right everyone...after over 15 years of being in Afghanistan....they still couldn't figure out how to build a runway....
#525 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 213 weeks ago
No one is blaming Joe for the war. I'm blaming him for this catastrophic exit and surrender.
Just read this:
@RobbieGramer
Ronald Neumann, the former US ambassador to Afghanistan, told me: “There’s a difference between the Biden decision to leave, and the Biden execution of the decision. The decision to leave is arguably justifiable. The execution of that decision is a lamentable disaster.”
It's also just come out that Biden refused to allow maintenance crews in to help the Afghan air force, which grounded the jets and denied them their greatest advantage.
The Afghan government was incentivized to bilk this outcome.
#526 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 213 weeks ago
mitchejw wrote:misterID wrote:Yes, in a different thread about this exact topic.
Focus on whatever you want. The topic right now is the Taliban just took over Afghanistan because of one of the most spectacular failures of an American president ever.
Lol bc of a president? Let’s focus on that but NOT the last 15 plus years and a TERRIBLE return on a horrible investment.
Mitch if trump was the president right now, he'd rightly be thrown under the bus by western politicians and media.
Biden is in charge, doesn't mater what Trump did or didn't right now.
As for the "terrible return", this wasn't Iraq. Do you not remember the circumstances that brought about the Afghanistan war?
Fair enough on your point about that person in charge bears the burden…
But let’s be real about the situation…we didn’t succeeded on our goals here and the president in 2021 is not responsible for the worst allocation of resources over the past 15 years.
It took hours to overthrow something we spent 15 working on…talk about government overreach…just how many made money off of this ‘campaign’. I’m sure the military industrial complex will take the blame…yea right
‘Feed us more’….’never criticize us’…’we’re the best Americans’…
This is all I’ve heard from these people since I’ve been of age to vote.
Well I’m here to say you haven’t done shit. 20 years of the biggest government giveaway hidden by the guise that they were actually doing something…
Mostly just waiting around until their government giveaways kick in
#527 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 213 weeks ago
Yes, this was his call. It was his decision. He said this wouldn't happen. And now with one of the biggest foreign policy disasters in my lifetime, he's on vacation and won't answer any questions.
You measure this In hours…whatever we did for damn near decades was all foiled in a few days…for real?!
I guess we just didn’t spend enough money
#528 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 213 weeks ago
mitchejw wrote:misterID wrote:In the current events thread where this discussion started. All you wanted to talk about was Syria and Trump.
Apparently, Afghan troops deserted the moment we pulled out intelligence and air support. They lost all logistics. Once the Taliban discovered this, everything fell apart.
So in a different thread?
How about we focus on the cost of this project and what it got us?
Yes, in a different thread about this exact topic.
Focus on whatever you want. The topic right now is the Taliban just took over Afghanistan because of one of the most spectacular failures of an American president ever.
Lol bc of a president? Let’s focus on that but NOT the last 15 plus years and a TERRIBLE return on a horrible investment.
#529 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 213 weeks ago
mitchejw wrote:misterID wrote:So far your response to this has been "Trump!" and "We deserve this!"
It is? Where did i mention Trump? Where?
In the current events thread where this discussion started. All you wanted to talk about was Syria and Trump.
Apparently, Afghan troops deserted the moment we pulled out intelligence and air support. They lost all logistics. Once the Taliban discovered this, everything fell apart.
So in a different thread?
How about we focus on the cost of this project and what it got us?
#530 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 213 weeks ago
From the Wall Street Journal:
"Biden overruled his top military commanders--Gen. Frank McKenzie, Gen. Austin Scott Miller, and Gen. Mark Milley--who recommended the US keep 2500 troops in Afghanistan while stepping up diplomacy to try to cement a peace agreement."
The moment they pulled the intelligence and armed support, the Afghan army collapsed. The military literally drove our equipment to Iran, who will now have our tech.
Same guy who told Obama not to take out bin Laden.
Oh look! You’re quoting MSM again…later you’ll bash it for saying something you dislike
