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#491 Re: Guns N' Roses » Will GNR release new music in 2021? » 212 weeks ago

Who hell is Ricky Rattman anyway and why does he know so much about Guns N’ Roses all the time?

#492 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 212 weeks ago

misterID wrote:
Axl S wrote:
mitchejw wrote:

Oh is twitter now a news source?


Yes, Twitter is a news source. Depending on the poster on twitter depends on how reliable it is.

The ability for news and information to spread rapidly on social media in the early 10s is part of what allowed the Arab Spring to happen.

Not sure why you are dismissing it.

Also, not sure why you are bringing it up when all Id was doing was observing what was happening on the platform. Your post doesn't even make sense.

He's trolling at this point. His post at me was just him trying to antagonize an argument.  He's still pushing the spin/talking points about the war and not the exit.

I mean...you're right to a certain extent...it's hard to watch this conversation...ohhh the outrage...

Anyway, I gotta run...I got tickets on the left wing of a jet....

#493 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 212 weeks ago

Axl S wrote:
mitchejw wrote:
Axl S wrote:

None of these countries are "the same bullshit". You write the dumbest shit in all these threads.

You've admitted that you 1) are not informed 2) don't care to be and 3) don't care about any of this.

If that's the case you basically don't have an opinion or insight on any of this that's worth a damn. Now just got to wait for you to reply with some post that completely misses the point.

You're engaging in hysteria....that's it...

Dude, worrying about what's happening to people in a country with +30m population isn't hysteria. It's called having some compassion.

Criticising your country's leaders for 1) the extent of their withdrawal and 2) how they've conducted it isn't hysteria either. It's calling out a major foreign policy failure.

For someone who went on about morality, compassion and humanity during the Trump presidency, you're really showing yourself just to be a massive hypocrite who doesn't give a shit.

Oh no...I think our country is incompetent...you and I agree there...

Like I said before...this has been going on since i was 19 years of age...we've accomplished nothing. That's the embarrassment. I don't care that much about Biden. I do hate Trump with a fucking passion.

It'll never end for this country...too many businesses make their fortunes off of endless war. We'll find some other venture to waste time and resources on soon enough.

Let in the refugees...I'll say it over and over...other than that...most of this conversation is a complete farce...and because I don't know what happened in Season 9, episode 4 of Afghanistan I'm labeled idiot.

I'm gonna guess the majority of the 'knowledge' in this thread was learned in the past few days. It's all reactionary.

#494 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 212 weeks ago

Axl S wrote:
mitchejw wrote:

Iraq/Iran/Afghanistan/Syria....it's all the same bullshit...slightly different details

Now pardon me while I go into deep research mode where I learn who the owns Osama's last robe....


None of these countries are "the same bullshit". You write the dumbest shit in all these threads.

You've admitted that you 1) are not informed 2) don't care to be and 3) don't care about any of this.

If that's the case you basically don't have an opinion or insight on any of this that's worth a damn. Now just got to wait for you to reply with some post that completely misses the point.

You're engaging in hysteria....that's it...

#495 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 212 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

On Twitter progressives are saying Trump was right about the media lol

Oh is twitter now a news source?

#496 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 212 weeks ago

AtariLegend wrote:
mitchejw wrote:

Iraq/Iran/Afghanistan/Syria....it's all the same bullshit...slightly different details

Now pardon me while I go into deep research mode where I learn who the owns Osama's last robe....

This post is up there with a certain someone's hydroxychloroquine post in spring last year about it all being over last year for being amongst the most mind bendingly dumb things I ever seen posted by someone who probably actually believes what they're saying.

Is it...how do you figure?

either way...we can save money for at least a little while...we can pick some other project that yields us nothing after 20 years...

#497 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 212 weeks ago

Iraq/Iran/Afghanistan/Syria....it's all the same bullshit...slightly different details

Now pardon me while I go into deep research mode where I learn who the owns Osama's last robe....

#498 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 212 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:
mitchejw wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

CNN had an “analysis” earlier that was titled “When did you last think of Afghanistan?”


https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/19/opinions … index.html

This organization along with many others earned their audience preaching fear and telling them that Trump would bring WW3. He ended ISIS and withdrew the bulk of American forces, leaving small contingents as we have in Iraq since 2011. He got 3 or 4 Arab nations to recognize Israel. He held talks with Kim and got the guy to quit shooting rockets over Japan. No one is talking about North Korean nukes. He negotiated a deal to stop combat operations with the Taliban, and set a time table for a full withdrawal.

The American media can’t hide what a collosal fuck up this is, but they’re bending over themselves to make excuses on how they’re not looking like fools for soft balling and singing praise of this administration. Even going so far as to tell us Afghanistan and this colossal fuck up don’t really matter, cause it’s just Afghanistan. It was already fucked, so botching a withdrawal and putting 10k Americans at the direct mercy of the Taliban, who we just learned Biden is engaged in daily negotiations with, isn’t worth much consideration, culpability, and accountability.

After the scrutiny and tone directed at the former President for his international relations, you have to be a real sycophant to not find issue with the current President and the direct danger he’s directly responsible for putting 10k+ of his citizens in.

To say this isn’t important or worth caring about…. Jesus Christ.

So what are you saying? We shouldn't have left? This should go on in perpetuity?

No, what I'm saying is what you're doing cartwheels to avoid addressing.  We should have gotten out of Afghanistan.  We could have even done it on Biden's timeline.  He just should have had a plan to secure/force citizens out of the country before pulling back.  It's not a hard problem to identify, but you're here to stir the pot and play sycophant to Biden.  Biden and Biden alone was responsible for the timeline, resources, and coordination to extract Americans and the few Afghan's who qualified for a special visa for years of work collaborating with the US.  He didn't account for any of that, and now 10-15k Americans are in direct danger of being slaughtered by the Taliban. 

I understand you can't have an intelligent discussion, and refuse to acknowledge any of your dear leader's short comings.  But 15k Americans are trapped between Taliban forces only because of a decision and plan made by Joe Biden.  No one else.

Please just leave the conversation.  You're not contributing anything, admitted you don't care, and refuse to get informed.  Find a thread you can post in.  Or better just tweet.

More histrionics....

I appreciate all the Wikipedia research you've done in the last 20 minutes....believe me, I do...

but I just disagree....

#499 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 212 weeks ago

Axl S wrote:
mitchejw wrote:

Nah…i think I’m just gonna back to not caring.

I feel bad for the refugees but this was a shit storm decades in the making…i neither have the time nor the desire to research the last damn near 50 years. Especially when it will result in nothing.

I’m gonna hold my kids a bit tighter the next few days and move on.

"I don't give a shit to learn about this conflict, I'm just going to stop caring. Time to move on."

The 12 year old Afghan girl who is about to watch her Dad get beheaded for assisting the allied forces before she's raped from daylight to dawn for the rest of her life, she doesn't get to move on.


You vote for the people who make these decisions, you go on and on about how the last guy was bad and how awful and dangerous his foreign policy was. When the consequences of your guy's foreign policy blows up you don't get to check out and then swan back in later for the next event.

This disaster did not have to be decades in the making. And at the least, those who helped the coalition forces deserves some thanks, rescue and respect.

Yep...that's awful stuff. I don't even wanna think about it.

This was always the way it was going to end...in complete and utter chaos. You can't have all these people there for decades with no real goals and no tangible proof of any real successes while we were there.

What we needed to do was accept as many refugees as we could ASAP. However, that would be more to make ourselves feel better than anything else. This country has left a giant turd of embarrassment in Afghanistan.

I guess we can't solve everyone's problems with bigger guns.

#500 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 212 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:
misterID wrote:

I'm seeing a lot of Biden voters saying far more callous things. It's just the same talking points being said as what you're saying, and the stark turnaround from last year and what wasn't tolerated is just astounding. This isn't about the history of Afghanistan, the war, the last twenty years, or even refugees. There are over ten thousand Americans stranded behind enemy lines and we're not doing dick to get them. If you don't care about that, why do you care about anything?

CNN had an “analysis” earlier that was titled “When did you last think of Afghanistan?”


https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/19/opinions … index.html

This organization along with many others earned their audience preaching fear and telling them that Trump would bring WW3. He ended ISIS and withdrew the bulk of American forces, leaving small contingents as we have in Iraq since 2011. He got 3 or 4 Arab nations to recognize Israel. He held talks with Kim and got the guy to quit shooting rockets over Japan. No one is talking about North Korean nukes. He negotiated a deal to stop combat operations with the Taliban, and set a time table for a full withdrawal.

The American media can’t hide what a collosal fuck up this is, but they’re bending over themselves to make excuses on how they’re not looking like fools for soft balling and singing praise of this administration. Even going so far as to tell us Afghanistan and this colossal fuck up don’t really matter, cause it’s just Afghanistan. It was already fucked, so botching a withdrawal and putting 10k Americans at the direct mercy of the Taliban, who we just learned Biden is engaged in daily negotiations with, isn’t worth much consideration, culpability, and accountability.

After the scrutiny and tone directed at the former President for his international relations, you have to be a real sycophant to not find issue with the current President and the direct danger he’s directly responsible for putting 10k+ of his citizens in.

To say this isn’t important or worth caring about…. Jesus Christ.

So what are you saying? We shouldn't have left? This should go on in perpetuity?

How long did people know we were leaving and did nothing?

I'm tired of the military constantly justifying itself by never solving any problems. It seems plenty of money was made by keeping all of those middle east/Asia conflicts going forever.

The biggest embarrassment is how much money we spent on all of this, how much time was spent, and how little we accomplished. I'm tired of congress approving more funding for the military but somehow it's never required that anything is actually accomplished. No, I'm not talking about always advancing our weaponry and our techniques. I'm talking about standing armies and special forces spending two decades somewhere no really accomplishing anything.

That's the biggest embarrassment to me. Since WWII, this country has used its military in ways it shouldn't be doing.

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