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#41 Re: Guns N' Roses » Wtf happened to…The Blues (Street of Dreams I guess) » 243 weeks ago
Really? He played alot live tho, early in the NITL tour. Still is talented at it.
#42 Re: Guns N' Roses » Wtf happened to…The Blues (Street of Dreams I guess) » 243 weeks ago
Agree with alot of this, it's a great song in there. Should've been a radio single, probably Better first, then The Blues.
As for the CD track, a bit overproduced (I too remember liking the 06 leak better), the Mickey Mouse voice, and the song title change (Street Of Dreams?? wtf). It all just missed and took away from a gem of a song.
Axl's an underrated pianist. He probably should've put out a solo album, let Slash & the band do some side stuff, then reconvene around 02/04 like when VR did.
#43 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 244 weeks ago
PaSnow wrote:Randall Flagg wrote:If someone knocked me out and raped me, there is no friendship afterwards.
Duly noted.
Do you disagree that to 99.9% of people, being raped results in anger and rage? How many people that are raped continue to have consensual sex years after the rape with the rapist? That's my struggle with this. I oversaw quite a few sexual assault cases in the military, and in my observation, the willingness of the raped to be friendly with the rapists was the number one indicator of how factual the allegations are. I'm not saying people don't respond differently or demonstrate their trauma differently. Just that continuing to have sex with someone who raped you isn't something that I find a plausible scenario.
I meant it facetiously, as in 'I'll make sure not to rape you Randall' 
#44 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 244 weeks ago
If someone knocked me out and raped me, there is no friendship afterwards.
Duly noted.
If he rendered women unconscious so he can have sex against their consent, that's rape. Giving someone a medication to take the edge off and make them more loose isn't rape.
Yeah this is where I'm going too, somewhat, or just unclear about. Ludes was before our time, (late 70s?) but I think it was a common party drug, something people took & tried to get their hands on like exctasy. I think Wolf Of Wall Street exagerrated it's effects alot, it's not one pill & you're paralyzed. Didn't he say he took like 20 or 50 of them.
Although, giving a girl a strong dose & amount of Molly etc and she's knocked out, then yeah it's rape. But, imagine a guy going to a rave with his gf. Then, 5-10 years later, 'He drugged me & raped me'. It becomes a fine line.
#45 Re: The Sunset Strip » Metallica - Black album box set » 244 weeks ago
. I really like how this version sounds too, the riff once the singing kicks in sounds like it has way more bite than it sounds on the final album version. Probably just the mixing and lack of production at this point.
I agree, especially about the part of the guitar during the lyrics. The pre-chorus sorta lacks, but that was probably re-recorded specifically for overdubs etc. I like the raw free flow to it, where the final mix seemed a little polished for Metallica, not nearly as overdone as UYI. Was probably the era, as Achtung Baby, UYI & Black elbum were that way. Even traces back to Dr Feelgood a little bit, and maybe Hysteria.
Anyway, yeah cool box set. DVD's tho, they're def a thing of the past already.
#46 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 244 weeks ago
mitchejw wrote:misterID wrote:He was knocking them out.
I think you missed the point. He's saying Motley Crue was notorious for something similar.
I didn’t get that from reading PASnows post??? I thought he was just asking for clarification of how Cosby was drugging them, because he couldnt remember.
Sorta both, I'll read up, tried recapping on wikipedia but it's all pretty muddy. As a whole, where there's smoke there's fire. However, cases from the mid 60s & 1970s, are touch to accuse somebody 4-5 decades later. I did come across a Bill Cosby quote on one accuser, "I give her Quaaludes. We then have sex.". Kinda like doing exctasy or Xanax maybe with a girl (not that I ever have).
And yeah, like Motley Crue gave girls drugs (cocaine) and had sex. Was that always 'rape'? Now, IF Cosby was feeding them drugs/ludes without them knowing, then yes that's assault. Ludes were pretty popular tho, again like Molly or Xanax today, so I don't think it's far fetched to think the woman maybe were in on it. Maybe not too, that's what I'm unclear about. But it wasn't like roofies necessarily, where basically no one (female) willingly took it voluntarily.
#47 Re: Guns N' Roses » Wtf happened to…Chinese Democracy (song) » 244 weeks ago
I think he felt it was the best radio track (that & Better) so was trying to make it a YCBM when there really wasn't a whole lot there.
#48 Re: Guns N' Roses » Wtf happened to…Chinese Democracy (song) » 244 weeks ago
Yeah, I think 'trying to turn it into an epic that wasn't there' is about right. A song like Semi Charmed Life or The Killers When You Were Young is basically what it should be. A great rock song, just that. Spending years on it is, well, just that. Spending years on it. Either make it raw like an In Utero track, or 3EB/The Killers stuff.
I do like the punch of the drums, and the guitar riff tho.
#49 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 244 weeks ago
Yeah, Cosby got fucked over (in regards to his constitutional rights) and that's why he's out of jail. I think he's guilty of all those horrible things but he has fifth amendment rights too. And there was clearly a deal with the prosecutor at the time.
The trial was 2 or 3 years ago, and I admit I had issues with prosecuting 20 years old cases based on testimony. However, do you recall, did he dope them, like dropping it in their drink like a Roofie, without telling them? Or was this a 'Hey, let's get whacked and party" situation, like Motley Crue giving groupies cocaine backstage then banging them an hour later?
I heard they were 'downers' but for some reason did make you want to fuck.
#50 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 244 weeks ago
James wrote:I wanted to post something but doesn't really need its own thread....
Remember that obscure actress I used to rave about on the old site, Rona De Ricci?
Found out last night that she killed herself last year.
It really threw me for a loop. Took me a few hours to get to sleep.
Out of the blue, she wrote her memoirs last year right before she killed herself. I bought it. Since watching The Pit and the Pendulum on HBO when I was 16, always wondered what happened to her. This book tells you.... apparently she was up for the female role in Steven Seagal's Under Siege, he wanted to fuck her, she refused, didn't get the role, was essentially blacklisted, and she became so jaded she walked away from the industry and spent her life in a shitty, dysfunctional marriage, dealt with severe depression (obviously), and her kids even turned on her.
She posted her suicide note on Instagram. Only had 37 followers.
The fact no news outlets picked up on this story really shows how obscure she really is.
I'm no longer putting off reading it.
She was only in two films.
The Pit and the Pendulum
The Penitent...an obscure 1988 film out of print and no trailer on YouTube. I saw it back in 97. Not very good but she was great in her small role.
RIP Rona
You obviously had talent and it's unfortunate how what should've been an exciting time when your career was just starting to blossom had to be ruined like that.
I finished this book last night.
This is the most disturbing and depressing book I have ever read...and I've read some fucked up shit.
I cried while reading the last couple chapters...she just flat out says she's going to kill herself...and was speechless afterwards.
It's not a normal biography. There is no drugs...no sex...no scandal...no crazy adventures....
The reader gets to witness the isolation and desperation as a woman goes through the dysfunctional breakdown of her family which leads to the imminent destruction of her own life.
It's not easy to describe. As I was reading it I felt like I was invading her privacy. This isn't meant for public consumption. While not written like a diary, it sure as shit feels like one.
I'm not gonna lie.... it's boring in many places. She doesn't attempt to dress it up.... it's warts and all.
This is what helps make it so uncomfortable...this could be any woman dealing with this. Anything resembling a glamorous actress was gone decades ago.
I feel really sorry for her. You can tell she was a great person who sacrificed her life on the altar of her (ex)husband and then her children...who thank her for that sacrifice by shitting on her and then literally abandoning her.
I started crying when she came to the realization that she had wasted her life and was now too old to make anything of herself. Since the only thing she loved(her sons) now hated her, it was time to end it all.
This book clearly wasn't written for me or any other fan from long ago. It's not written for other women to learn from her mistakes neither.
I think it was written for two reasons....
- To rub her ex husband and sons noses in shit....
- I think she believed that thanks to her brief fame 30 years ago, her suicide would cause her story and this book to go viral...and her sons could make some money from it.
It's just an awful story all around. I never would have imagined this would be her fate.
Edit
Another thing....
As I was reading the last half of her life, I was shocked that a massive drug addiction or deep dive into a bottomless bottle wasn't her next step.
The progression of her story begs for such a detour but it never comes.
I'll have to watch this movie. And that's a bizarre suicide note. Ashame, although, there probably are plenty of actresses and actors who bordered on success. Jennifer Anniston I think was in Ferris Buellers Day Off the TV show. Lasted like 13 episodes, (and Parker Lewis Can't Lose even mocked the show in an episode), Brad Pitt was in a Fox summer TV show I actually watched, was cancelled and 90210 replaced it. For each of those there's thousands of similar 'nearly touched fame' types. Part of the dream I'm sure.
Still, yeah not sure if she was a bit 'off', but it really seems she thought the book would be a viral tell-all sensation. Sad to see the IG post have only 40 likes and 6 comments.
