mitchejw wrote:

misterID wrote:

White liberals are pretty insufferable... I will say a good many do really genuinely care, but I've known too many who love patting themselves on the back with how hip they are.

That's really messed up man....no critical analysis at all....just spewing hate. I take it you're a Trump backer.

I just don't get the point of it. It gets you absolutely nowhere. As a self-proclaimed "white liberal," all I have to offer is an attempt at empathy and a genuine sadness about a problem that seems to have no solution. I'm not pointing any fingers, I'm not being smug, and I'm certainly not denying my own whiteness.

ID is a democrat and is voting for Hilary.

Gagarin wrote:

whatever song that will end up being played and some forum poster will end up moving the goal post anyway.

Except the people complaining aren't the ones moving the goal posts: it's the exact same complaint as in '06,'08/'09.
The crux of the complaint is that the set lists are indicative of the general malaise and lazy attitude that has infected GnR for the past 25 years.
There is clearly supercilious thinking going on, that whatever's being presented is "good enough" & we should somehow be grateful for even that?! WHAT?! & there's little effort made to go above and beyond. & people have a right to expect that, why should the band or the fans settle for "ok that's good enough", asif merely being in their presence is some kind of privilege?! Not for me well. I don't think the sunshines out of axls fat hole.

Good for you lot who are glad to accept whatever they feed you, it doesn't mean others don't have legitimate questions of the organisation.
& why shouldn't people be allowed to express an opinion, & if you're so content why let it bother you anyway?
It's funny how you can OMG and spunk yer load to Coma but it's somehow less legitimate for someone to do likewise to TWAT or Back off Bitch?! That doesn't seem very fair..

Surely given that these are stadium shows with 40-60,000 then statistically it's more likely more people will have seen the show online or be going to multiple gigs that the 5-8,000 that turned up for the arena shows with axl & his travelling circus..??

Meh. It is what it is. I didn't even want to get into this fight really. I've long since accepted the slack attitude of Axl to the brand. I'm just saying that the set list is just one of many indicators of the attitude at play - both from the owners & from the people/fans who accept it. It's clearly not a fight I'll ever win, I learned that a long time ago. Or at least I thought I did.. I'm just beatin a dead horse..

Once the reunion started and DTJ was being performed, I was glad homefuck had been ditched. He used it in KC and I wondered if it was by accident as they had performed it so many times in 91-93. Once it happened again in Chicago... I realize its here to stay. Not a dealbreaker obviously but it always seemed a bit cheesy. In its defense, pretty sure he's the person who coined the term so it has that unique twist going for it.

Forum fans had been pointing out its absence. Makes me wonder if it was added due to that.