Cramer wrote:

He is setting up excuses for his loss: Not enough support, party turned on him, they are losers and afraid to fight etc.

He will smash the GOP (which is already fractured) into many pieces on his way out too.

Remember when we were talking months ago about Trumpo not really wanting to be president? There are reports he has an entire business plan to run off his loss to make him money. Basically, speaking engagements, speaking fees, merchandise, and I won't be surprised if he starts his own political party that ius the first that requires an NRA type membership fees. It's being reported his inner circle have been laughing at the bad press since the last debate and all the republicans who are going to lose their seats. Trump is the gift that keeps on giving. To the point, I really am wondering if he's trying to destroy the republican party.

bigbri wrote:

Smoking Guns wrote:

I known you don't believe them but multiple women have accused Bill of freaking rape and sexual assault. What he did to Lewinsky alone gets men fired from their jobs.

Rail on Trump all you want but a man who was elected twice was a serial offender of women and his marriage. Standards don't change just because he's on your team member.

fortunately, we know about Trump before the election. We didn't know about Bill beforehand. Besides, last i checked he isn't running.

He fucked one in the Oval Office. WTF.

AtariLegend wrote:

polluxlm wrote:

Will be seeing it tonight, expecting nothing special from either one. From what I hear Trump came away not bad considering the moderator was a democrat, but of course we all knew it would be biased going in. If that's accurate and Hillary failed to demolish Trump under those conditions, I'd say she sort of lost.

MRC’s Brent Bozell: Trump Should ‘Raise Hell’ Over Lester Holt Lobbing ‘Softballs’ to Hillary ‘All Night’

After issuing a statement late Monday night blasting Lester Holt’s job as presidential debate moderator, Media Research Center president Brent Bozell joined the Fox Business Network’s late-night coverage and urged Donald Trump to “raise hell” over Holt “pitch[ing] softballs to Hillary Clinton all night long.”

Host Neil Cavuto turned to Bozell around the 12:48 a.m. Eastern mark for his thoughts on Holt and Bozell promptly went to his “scorecard” on Holt’s relentless hardballs and follow-ups to Trump versus those to Clinton.

On birtherism, stop and frisk, and taxes, Bozell noted that Holt asked Trump about these issues but immediately “challenged him on his answer” and then “challenged, interrupted, or fact-checked him six different times” about whether Trump backed the invasion of Iraq.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/nb-staf … lt-lobbing

pollux do you ever do research on the sites you post news from?

I noticed a theme from most of the sites you've listed in this thread. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Research_Center

Seems strange for someone concerned about conspiracy theories.

Does Holt have a preference? Probably, but to say it shone through and Trump was hard done is a bit of a stretch.

I post from all kinds of sites, but obviously I will find more stuff I like on the fringe.

This particular story I have a pretty strong gut feeling will be quite accurate, so I'll go with that over any "expert" opinions.

If it shone throgh I have no idea, I expect not too much since they are good at what they do. But from what I'm hearing the numbers were pretty stacked in her favor. Several tough questions for Trump with follow ups, one for her with no follow up. A few interruptions of her, much more for Trump, letting the crowd cheer her several times, but told them to stop when it was Trump. If that's what happened I'd call the bias objectively pretty strong.

Lester Holt is a registered Republican. Has been since 2003.

Is that like when Robert Byrd decided not to be a racist anymore?

As I said, haven't seen it yet so I can't comment personally, but if this wasn't a biased debate I'll donate $ 100 to Hillary Clinton.

The scorpion bit the turtle because it was in his nature. The nature of the MSM is not to be objective and informative, that I learned some time ago.

Randall Flagg wrote:

mitchejw wrote:

See you come here for one week and presume to know everything about the city based on news reports?

I'm going to enjoy this again.

I have lived in this city for 10 years. You presume to know everything out about it by glossing over things based on a news report or two?

You presume to know everything about the problems here in Chicago based on a quick glance at a few cherry picked statistics.

Here's a couple things to think about, is it possible the black criminals are prosecuted more than white? Is it possible if they're also convicted at a higher rate because they're black?

There's outrage here all the time. So you're one day sampling of what goes on here in the city is purely asinine and  typical of Trump supporter.

Second, you also say you were informed by media reports but then asked the question why media doesn't report on the stuff? Hypocrisy right in your own words. Inconsistencies written in  your words.

I am emplore the rest of you to stop listening to this guy. He makes up things and talks about them as though they are already fact.

He cites statistics that are skewed based on obvious biases.

He cites opinion pieces and blogs as proof that his arguments are correct.

He comes to the city of Chicago for a week and presumes to know everything about it based on a couple of news reports. It's Jack-assery at its finest. You are  not to be listened to for any reason.  It's nothing but spin doctored messages and propaganda machine content.

I don't know what has inspired you to follow me the past few days, but let me apologize and offer an olive branch.  If you'd like to refute my ideas and offer your own, I'll be glad to listen.

I don't think I know everything about Chicago.  I'm in the city for a week about once a month.  I was simply pointing these tragedies as two events that in my opinion, are much more horrific than the the tragedy of police officers using lethal force.  Neither got national attention which is why I mentioned them.  I'm aware there's many factors unique to Chicago.  For example, I know that several years ago the police force made a concerted effort to arrest the leaders of several prominent gangs, creating a power vacuum. 

I don't think I've linked a single blog in any of my posting and no opinion pieces jump to mind either.  I don't know how repeating crime statistics in the US is biased, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume there is something to these FBI crime statistics you're aware of that I'm not.

Again, I apologize if I've inadvertently offended you.  Eager to participate in any fruitful discussion.  But if your posts are going to continue to be in the manner you've been following the past few days, please don't bother.  I'm not going to read them and no one else seems to be impressed with the quality of the arguments you're making when you come at me with this tone.  Apologies and hope to have meaningful discussion moving forward.

I accept your olive branch and in turn will tone it down in appreciation of you olive branch....

If I may....Id like to share a bit about who I am....

I had a white male father who spent a decade in prison during my childhood in Wisconsin.

I had a younger brother what the age of 10 needed a liver transplant and the only way that happened  in my family circumstance is through  government assistance.

I own a small business of a few dozen employees so I am no Safetyneter or standard liberal just waiting for a government handout.

When I graduated from undergraduate school in 2006, I left my rinky-dink town of Eau Claire Wisconsin in abeat up car into to Chicago and lived there ever since.

For those of you who know the Chicagoland area, you might be interested to know my first apartment was at the intersection of Austin Boulevard and Roosevelt. In Axls words, the jungle.

I went to graduate school here in Chicago and to make a long story short, I was sexually assaulted by a white male professor. And when I confessed this to two lawyers, neither of them cared.  You can currently see a billboard for this professor'S business facing eastbound on I 290 in Chicago just outside of the city limits.

In 2012 I met the love of my life.  She's a beautiful girl from Naperville.  She already had a child. My perspective on the world has changed ever since.

Except she's not really from Naperville, she's from the south side, or at least  thats where she was when she was born.

See she's a black woman.

And her brother? He's a black police officer.

Can you imagine?