People are extra forgiving to Barack because he is half black and they don't want to sound like a racist but he has been horrible in many ways.

monkeychow wrote:

I actually like what he said in that video.

What I doubt though is his ability to deliver those things.

In reality, he is the representative of the GOP which, just like the democratic party also, has been in the service of large corporations and other billion dollar interest groups for generations now.

Likewise as a born millionaire, now billionaire, he is both from and has perpetuated the type of inequality and 'establishment-interests' that he is now supposedly championing against.

How is he the figure head of normal people when his life is anything but normal? How is the representative of the oldest political party in the system being painted as an outsider?

What he says is what a lot of people want I have no doubt, but it's a straight up con job to think this stuff can come from this person.

I see how you easily could say that Monkey but he isn't really friends with the rich like you think. Most mega rich just don't like him. He didn't take Wall Street money like Hillary did and others have. He has a lot of flaws but I think he is his own man. His only negative is that he is mega rich so you assume he thinks just like every other super rich person. I think he does want to shake things up.

mitchejw wrote:

mitchejw wrote:

Homeless people shouldn't vote...you're right...

Also, I don't think anyone here is yelling race....the article points out these people who are removed from the roll call list were disproportionately black. It's a fact....not a talking point.

Also, I have to know... you have no comment on the Trump voter voted twice for Trump?

You guys keep telling me voter fraud doesn't happen. I can cite 20 instances of fraud the past few years. It's always handwaived as an anomaly. There are no checks in place to validate the integrity of the system. 

Put them in jail. But don't pretend it's republicans overwhelmingly cooking the books. Felons, illegals, etc have no right to vote. But I guess it's ok that ACORN like groups register dead people in urban areas that vote overwhelming democratic.

Require a state ID and this shit goes away.

Randall Flagg wrote:

slcpunk wrote:

Speaking of voter suppression based on race, this today:

Federal Judge Says North Carolina Must Restore Voter Registrations Of Those Removed From Rolls
The North Carolina NAACP sued the state on Monday, claiming a purge targeted black voters.

WASHINGTON ? County election boards in North Carolina must restore the registrations of voters removed from the polls, U.S. District Judge Loretta Biggs ordered on Friday.

The order follows an emergency hearing held on Wednesday to address allegations that election officials in Beaufort, Moore and Cumberland counties had removed voters from the rolls due to campaign mailers that were returned as undeliverable.

The North Carolina NAACP sued the state on Monday, claiming the purge targeted black voters. The Justice Department submitted a statement of interest in the lawsuit on Monday night supporting the assertion that removing voters from the rolls en masse is a violation of the National Voter Registration Act.

Biggs, who during the hearing called the state’s process for removing voters’ names “insane,” said in her ruling that the NC NAACP had proved that names were unfairly removed.

“The Court finds that a narrowly tailored injunction is warranted to ensure that eligible voters are not deprived of their right to participate in the upcoming election due to a flawed process engaged in by the State and County Boards, which this Court has determined likely violates the NVRA,” Biggs said in her decision.

“Voter enfranchisement cannot be sacrificed when citizens through no fault of their own have been removed from the voter rolls,” she added.

Rev. William Barber, the president of the NC NAACP, said the court ruled against “surgical, intention racism.”

“Racism is about policy,” Barber said on a call with reporters. “It’s not just about feelings, it’s not just about language. It’s when you use your power ? or attempt to use your power ? to undermine the rights of people and you target it toward African-Americans.”

The civil rights group argues that these cancellations are an attempt by the Republican Party to suppress the black vote, which is lower this year than it was in 2012.

At least 5,600 registrations have been removed in Cumberland County for varying reasons since 2014, while 790 and 63 were removed in Moore and Beaufort counties, respectively.

At least 3,500 voters were removed in the past 90 days, according to Penda Hair, an attorney representing the NAACP. The cancellations could have cost Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton the election, since most of the voters are black and tend to lean Democrat.

It’s still unclear whether or not those people will be able to vote on Election Day.

State law mandates that voters within any given county can challenge the eligibility of another voter in that county up to 25 days before the election.

But the National Voter Registration Act says states can only cancel registrations if a voter provides written notice of a change in address or if a voter does not respond to a notice for two election cycles and fails to vote for two federal election cycles. States also cannot remove voters from the rolls 90 days or less before a federal election.

“What they’re doing is race-driven. It’s immoral, illegal and it is unconstitutional. The courts have spoken,” Barber said. “We’ve not seen this kind of intentional suppression since the days of Jim Crow.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/nor … 0b02ca2471

You guys love screaming race, and I'm not saying I agree 100% with what the counties did, but if you're not living at your registered address, you don't vote in that precinct. You guys refuse the most basic of verification to ensure someone is who they say they are, but demand every other aspect of our lives be verified by the government. Want to fish, need a license. Want to drive, take the $200 course and provide 20 documents. Want a gun, undergo a federal background check you have to pay for. But fuck having the slightest sanity check that prevents liberal groups from rounding up the homeless and offering a free donut if you check the block with a (D) next to it.

Homeless people shouldn't vote...you're right...

Also, I don't think anyone here is yelling race....the article points out these people who are removed from the roll call list were disproportionately black. It's a fact....not a talking point.