mitchejw wrote:

A Private Eye wrote:

Unbelievable result. Will be interesting to see how this plays out. He has a blank canvas in a way, as his campaign seems to have been based around nice sound bites and saying stuffs going to be great again he can pretty much go in whatever direction he pleases.

Never ceases to amaze how powerful a slogan 'lets get our country back' seems to be to certain folks. They used it for brexit without anybody really stopping and asking what it means and it's worked for Trump as well. I guess both sides of the pond are about to find out.

Our country back from whom?

From the Democratic party that has been importing voters since the 60s.  No more anchor babies - the only reason they get citizenship now is because Johnson declared them citizens.  Trump can change all of that and Congress will back him.  Your dreams of turning texas Blue by an open gate of new DNC voters just shit the bed.

It's time to get on board.  The Democratic party had its ass knocked the fuck out last night.  No more pretending men can become women with the stroke of a pen.  All those illiterate Syrians Clinton wanted to bring in, they'll never step on our soil.

8 years ago you all claimed the GOP was done for a generation.  How many pundits and experts predicted complete Democratic control for the next 30 years?  Everything Obama accomplished is going to be erased with a couple signatures.  Obama will be a President kids spend 2 days on during February every year.

So do what all of us did 8 years ago when you guys thought Obama was going to be the 2nd coming.  Support the president and look at each issue on its own.  The Democrats already set precedent by removing the filibuster.  Obama expanded the role of the executive.  Time to reap what you sow.

In the end, all the fake shock and awe around Trump wasn't enough to fool most of America into recognizing Hillary Clinton was as corrupt, manipulative and secretive as any candidate has ever been.  Her name and face will never appear on any currency and she'll stain the credibility of her party for the next 10 years.

misterID wrote:

Randall Flagg wrote:

Isn't it obvious?  America's military position and status as the sole superpower. Russia took over parts of Georgia in 2008 amidst the oncoming election between Obama and McCain. Obama took a "ahh shucks, Russia isn't a threat" theme which he continued into 2012. McCain ran the opposite making his famous "when I look into Putin's eyes I see 'KGB'" argument during the debates and advocating for an American response. Obama did nothing. Romney echoed the sentiment in 2012 to which Obama mocked him about talking about Calvary in the 19th century. Russia then takes Crimea.  Not to mention Obama's failed Middle East policy that allowed not only ISIS to form, but to bring Russian military into the Middle East as a military force again.

China is creating fake islands and is now taking over our relationship with the Philippines, which is our primary asset in South East Asia.  If we lose that site, our entire pacific fleet and force projection is dramatically handicapped.  Oh, and that crazy North Korea country having nukes and missles capable of hitting the west coast.

12 years ago there wasn't a country in the world who questioned our supremacy. Now we have every third rate leader acting up because they no longer fear quick and swift retaliation. That's what's always killed me about some of you. You still don't realize this is a high stakes game and the US has to smack the gnats occasionally to remind everyone we can.

So yeah. I think Obama's leadership has greatly hindered our strength globally. And that is to say nothing of our reduced ownership of our own businesses and economic power/influence abroad.

Are you saying we needed to start a war with Russia? Europe needs to deal with that shit. But I do give Romney and McCain credit, Russia is a threat, but Trump doesn't think so, right SG?
Sorry, Isis didn't start because of Obama. I know W. in't responsible for anything, and just ignoring it goes back to W.'s war, but this is a an outright lie. W signed and set the date for that withdrawal. And the seeds of Isis started in 2002.

I also don't see what your solution is for China and North Korea. Smack them like gnats?

When did ISIS form?  When did they become a problem?  Who called the them JV team and refused to do anything?  Who was president in 2011 when the SOFA in Iraq ended - almost 3 years after Bush left office?  Your understanding of the situation is only an inch deep.  Obama made the decision to pull out of Iraq at the end of 2011 and not extend or renegotiate the SOFA.  ISIS sprang up immediately in that wake.  It's been 8 fucking years.  It's time to stop blaming Bush.

mitchejw wrote:

Smoking Guns wrote:

People are extra forgiving to Barack because he is half black and they don't want to sound like a racist but he has been horrible in many ways.

See when you make statements like that, how do you expect people not to think that you use race or skin color is a pretext to analyzing, assessing, and then criticizing the policies and decisions of another human being?

I am not sure what else to take from comments like that except that you use race and skin color as a pretext to determine and influence your line of thinking in terms of whether or not an idea for a policy was successful or not.

Quite the opposite. Reading is hard in this thread.

If Barack's name was Jim Smith, a white dude from Indiana, most would say how underwhelming he was and didn't do shit.
Iran, Russia, ISIS, race relations, slow growth, increased debt etc... all shit that went bad under Barack.