misterID wrote:

buzzsaw wrote:

I didn't realize I was being recorded.

In all seriousness though there's a lot of truth in that. The other thing is just like every new president, they can't just change everything 180 degrees. It just doesn't work that way. There are reasons Obama didn't do everything he said he'd do when he ran, and it's the same reason trump won't. Step back and stop fear mongering. This has happened before and we're still here. Relax and stop being part of the problem.

He has exuctive powers though, it's how Obama got things done.

I'm not going to get sucked into apocalyptic hyperbole, but there's a real history of facts here. Our economy was nearly destroyed under Bush's severe slashing of regulations which led to irresponsible behavior across the corporate world and Wall Street, huge tax cuts for the wealthy and incredible amounts of government spending and high deficits... His spending and tax cuts is going to rocket the debt, that's what Wall Street was betting on, that's what made the dow bounce. Trump is offering to quadruple down on what Bush did. I'm concerned about tens of millions who will lose their healthcare. I'm concerned about the enviorment. If you say we have nothing to worry about then that would make him the biggest liar in the history of the presidency.

We cannot act like he has no ability to damage the country. You're smarter than that. He has the house and senate, McConnell could very realistically eliminate the filibuster. This could go very badly. For this not to happen Democrats are going to have to obstruct everything. I will give him the benefit of the doubt, because I do believe Trump is that big of
And I will say, Trump looked much more comfortable with Obama than with "his" own party. But we still have Steve Bannon in the white house now. That is not going to end well.

What regulations were slashed under Bush that led to the 2008 recession. I'd like specific examples please.

I get it. Some of you are very upset. Look at my predictions about Obama in 2008. They came from a place of anger and a feeling that my thoughts and concerns weren't being heard. But this isn't the apocalypse. It's not the end of the world.

Some shit you really, really disagree with is going to be pushed through (Obamacare).  You're going to call out how bad it is and make predictions that it's going to do more harm than good. Some of your valid concerns will manifest. And you'll be astonished that despite your prediction being true and the law obviously not accomplishing what it intended, the other side blindly refuses to admit that. And worse, despite these failures, the other side will make speeches claiming success from selective statistics that may or may not have anything to do with the original law.

You'll watch as Trump makes decisions you strongly disagree with. You'll lament that whatever quality you cherished and saw in our international policy is degrading.  You'll discuss your frustration with other people and some are going to mock you, discredit you and lob insults meant to silence you with no real thought or consideration.

And you'll get over it. At some point in the not so distant future, Democrats will control congress and the White House. You'll feel vindicated and happy that the dipshits who bumbled decision after decision are finally gone.

So from someone who was shocked that a smooth talker with no leadership experience or qualification other than being "new" was put into office 8 years ago, I empathize. But I can also tell you the anger subsides and is only preventing you from seeing the other side and understanding where they're coming from. Most of you will never be happy with Trump. Some who voted for him will be backing the Democrat in 2020. But it's not the end of the world. There's going to be fewer illegals dropping off babies to get free shit and our trade deals are going to altered. Healthcare will change. But all of that is going to have little impact on your day to day life.

The GOP hasn't put forth a single bill yet, so it's a little premature to say they're going to destroy the country.  Suck it up. The half of the country that didn't vote for Obama has for the past 8 years.

mitchejw wrote:

Smoking Guns wrote:

Hillary voters being loving to Trump voter.

...and trump supporters have been nothing but angelic and full of respect....

Alright...i accepted Trump winning....now it's your turn to accept a couple of things...you wanted this from the get go...and I understand that...

But now...after the Repugs/tea party people obstructed and damaged this country.... shutting down the government, I'm not approving Supreme Court justices, fighting Obama about anything and everything. That is going to come back to haunt you.

Deflect deflect. So what you see in the video is okay because some Trump supporters were mean?

misterID wrote:

buzzsaw wrote:

I didn't realize I was being recorded.

In all seriousness though there's a lot of truth in that. The other thing is just like every new president, they can't just change everything 180 degrees. It just doesn't work that way. There are reasons Obama didn't do everything he said he'd do when he ran, and it's the same reason trump won't. Step back and stop fear mongering. This has happened before and we're still here. Relax and stop being part of the problem.

He has exuctive powers though, it's how Obama got things done.

I'm not going to get sucked into apocalyptic hyperbole, but there's a real history of facts here. Our economy was nearly destroyed under Bush's severe slashing of regulations which led to irresponsible behavior across the corporate world and Wall Street, huge tax cuts for the wealthy and incredible amounts of government spending and high deficits... His spending and tax cuts is going to rocket the debt, that's what Wall Street was betting on, that's what made the dow bounce. Trump is offering to quadruple down on what Bush did. I'm concerned about tens of millions who will lose their healthcare. I'm concerned about the enviorment. If you say we have nothing to worry about then that would make him the biggest liar in the history of the presidency.

We cannot act like he has no ability to damage the country. You're smarter than that. He has the house and senate, McConnell could very realistically eliminate the filibuster. This could go very badly. For this not to happen Democrats are going to have to obstruct everything. I will give him the benefit of the doubt, because I do believe Trump is that big of
And I will say, Trump looked much more comfortable with Obama than with "his" own party. But we still have Steve Bannon in the white house now. That is not going to end well.

What regulations were slashed under Bush that led to the 2008 recession. I'd like specific examples please.

I get it. Some of you are very upset. Look at my predictions about Obama in 2008. They came from a place of anger and a feeling that my thoughts and concerns weren't being heard. But this isn't the apocalypse. It's not the end of the world.

Some shit you really, really disagree with is going to be pushed through (Obamacare).  You're going to call out how bad it is and make predictions that it's going to do more harm than good. Some of your valid concerns will manifest. And you'll be astonished that despite your prediction being true and the law obviously not accomplishing what it intended, the other side blindly refuses to admit that. And worse, despite these failures, the other side will make speeches claiming success from selective statistics that may or may not have anything to do with the original law.

You'll watch as Trump makes decisions you strongly disagree with. You'll lament that whatever quality you cherished and saw in our international policy is degrading.  You'll discuss your frustration with other people and some are going to mock you, discredit you and lob insults meant to silence you with no real thought or consideration.

And you'll get over it. At some point in the not so distant future, Democrats will control congress and the White House. You'll feel vindicated and happy that the dipshits who bumbled decision after decision are finally gone.

So from someone who was shocked that a smooth talker with no leadership experience or qualification other than being "new" was put into office 8 years ago, I empathize. But I can also tell you the anger subsides and is only preventing you from seeing the other side and understanding where they're coming from. Most of you will never be happy with Trump. Some who voted for him will be backing the Democrat in 2020. But it's not the end of the world. There's going to be fewer illegals dropping off babies to get free shit and our trade deals are going to altered. Healthcare will change. But all of that is going to have little impact on your day to day life.

The GOP hasn't put forth a single bill yet, so it's a little premature to say they're going to destroy the country.  Suck it up. The half of the country that didn't vote for Obama has for the past 8 years.

mitchejw wrote:

buzzsaw wrote:

I didn't vote for Trump, so I don't have to hope he does or doesn't do anything. He can't do shit alone. I seriously don't get why you guys post such stupid shit. You're not that dumb, but you let your anger and contempt prevent you from seeking any sort of truth as to why what happened actually happened.

One thing that he does do is represent us as a people to the rest of the world. He does that all by himself. And if he puts Sarah Palin in a post...then I'm really gonna be pissed....:headbang:

He can make those appointments all by himself.

And what about that supreme court justice? Is he just gonna go find another Scalia? It would be a real nice olive branch to get the current nominee approved. What's his name? Merrick Garland?

You think the world doesn't laugh at us for Obama?  It's naive to think that the world loves him any more than the world loved any of our presidents.  They all had their detractors.  I'd be more worried if the world did love someone because it would make me wonder why. 

His cabinet is going to be his cabinet and he should appoint them himself.  Those are his advisors whether we like them or not.  It's just mind-boggling how closed-minded some of the liberals are when confronted with something they don't like.  The party of love has been full of hate for the last two days. 

Here's what's not going to happen: gays won't be deported or killed, all Muslims won't be deported or killed, women aren't going to turn into sex objects any more than they already are, etc.  The entire concept of Obamacare isn't going to go away (meaning preexisting conditions and those sorts of clauses).  What else are you guys in full-blown panic over?  It's not going to happen.  There will be some policy changes for sure.  The executive orders that shouldn't have been done in the first place will be overturned.  The US has gone back and forth Democrat and Republican for decades and somehow we're all still here.

What remains to be seen is what (if anything) is done about our debt situation.  People are all worried about climate change, but have no issues strapping your kids and grandkids with so much debt that they'd be better off if the sun fried them.  Some f'd up priorities for sure...