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#4721 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 517 weeks ago
Paul Ryan just celebrated passing legislation barring Obama from doing anything in the final days in office.
How can you ask liberals and dems to grow up and turn the other cheek and tolerate the grotesque behavior these childish, career politician men.
Paul Ryan is a fraud and a hypocrite. The ultimate douche.
#4722 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 517 weeks ago
For racial tensions when in all likelihood she used the tensions to further her own career.
I look forward to your explanation on how she used racial tension to further her career. Unfortunately I'll be waiting until doomsday because its not even remotely close to the truth. YOur statement was nothing but a partisan attack on a journalist you literally know nothing about.
I thought you conservatives loved "at will" or "right to work" policies so that you can fire anyone you want for whatever reason you want.
Funny. THis is why these extremely partisan discussions become a merry go round. Because you disagree with something I post, you automatically feel the need to lump me into the red category since you are in the blue category. Had Rachel Maddow been fired for calling a spade a spade, I would have been pissed off about that as well. So would you if it had been her instead.
I love IDs posts.
I don't have any problems with ID either.
You're right I dont know who she is...."right to work" is a conservative staple.
The media is privitized and it's sole job is to sell units.
I said as a member of the media...it's possible to not be racist and take advantage of race issues.
#4723 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 517 weeks ago
I can be a moderate and find the Trump voter mentality shallow, narrow minded and ridiculous.
I never said you couldn't. The problem is that its an identical two way street....but you turn a blind eye to the exact same shit coming from the left. That is your god given right to do so but you shouldn't be surprised when people pick up on it.
Trump voters(a small minority) go around saying "death to niggers". You are outraged by this(and rightfully so). Hillary voters(a small minority) have said "kill all the whites" and you don't bat an eye.
I mentioned Scarlett Fakhar a couple pages ago. I don't know if you are aware of this story so I'll post it. As a moderate on political issues, I'd like to know how you feel about her firing.
Outrage as reporter is SACKED for praising Donald Trump and criticising Obama
A US reporter has been sacked after she praised President-Elect Donald Trump and criticised President Obama for making the “entire country hate one another”.In a Facebook post that has since been deleted, Scarlett Fakhar, a Fox 26 Houston journalist, said “God had a hand” in the election and she could “barely sleep from how happy and relieved she was” after Trump’s election victory.
In place of the deleted post, Fakhar said: "Guess what fans!!?? FOX 26 Houston is trying to take my fan page down now! DON'T LET THEM! #FREEPRESS #FREESPEECH #FIRSTAMENDMENT"
http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dyn … 727294.jpg
But the day after she was sacked, she added: “Fox 26 Houston fired me today for expressing my conservative views on my private Facebook page.
“That is all I will say for you. But I want you to know how much your support has gotten me through this. God Bless you all.”
A spokesman from the KRIV confirmed to a local US newspaper that the journalist was sacked, but declined to comment.
The former journalist claimed that US newspapers made her race an important part of the story.
She wrote: “The media has made this a race issue, when in reality the matter boils down to a difference in political philosophy.
“As a multiracial person myself, I never have been or never will be racist.
"I simply stated the fact that the media continues to misrepresent the factual realities that there is NO more white on black crime than there is black on black crime.”
Fakhar has worked on a number of stories surrounding the Republican, including exposing the violence Trump supporters have faced since his election.
The most recent focuses on a student who was attacked by his classmates for voting for Trump in a "mock" election.
http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dyn … 727296.jpg
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/734 … ter-sacked
To anyone who believes the story is bullshit due to the Express, you can go read about it at the NY Post or other media outlets. You can also go straight to the source and follow her story on twitter....
https://twitter.com/Scarlettontv
I've followed her on twitter for months(although I rarely use social media) and I never saw her post anything worthy of losing her job over. She's similar to another one I follow(Juliet Huddy) who has similar views and probably the only reason they haven't went after her(yet) is she's more high profile.
Off topic but Juliet is a GNR fan(also likes Slayer) and has checked out our site.
The media coverage of this election in general was a huge clusterfuck and the media is on the verge of a major backlash.
I thought you conservatives loved "at will" or "right to work" policies so that you can fire anyone you want for whatever reason you want.
Also, anyone find it hypocritical that a member of the media blames Obama
For racial tensions when in all likelihood she used the tensions to further her own career. You don't have to be racist to used racial tensions as a catapult for yourself. Hypocrisy at its finest.
I love IDs posts. I agree with a lot of what he says. Trump is the ultimate hypocrite. He rides into office saying things that role up racial tensions and uses that energy for his own selfish means. Now Mr. Change rolls into office and appoints career politicians into positions of power. Mitch McConnel and Paul Ryan are exactly what Trump was supposed to be against. Now they're all buddies.
And even as president-elect, he still has time to tweet about SNL like a fucking child. He's not a leader of men. He's a divider. Divide and conquer.
He's got major problems to deal with and he's worried about a people making fun of him.
#4724 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 518 weeks ago
Not a fan of Jeff Sessions... And I am from Alabama.
Smell the white supremacy yet?
#4725 Re: The Garden » Quick Yes/No question! » 518 weeks ago
James Lofton wrote:Randall Flagg wrote:The only real solution is to start a light ground war to create a focus for radicals while using special forces and intelligent agencies to remove pockets that appear outside the designated area. Use the occupation and forced stability to bring in trade and modern conveniences. Remove the ignorance and poverty and you neuter radicalism.
Fair point and you're probably right.
Having said that....
How far does it go? Where's the line in the sand? This isn't Iraq obviously. Russia is sitting right there. Is it worth the risk(however great or small) of a major war breaking out?
We should try to shake hands with Russia and work to open trade with them. The US and Russia could act together outside of NATO and the UN and take actions to stabilize and control the region. Who's going to argue with them?
The EU is hurt by its loss of the U.K. They don't matter for anything outside of consumers. We have no problem doing business with Saudi Arabia. Europe has no problem dealing with Iran. No one gets to claim moral superiority. Give the US Iraq and give Russia Syria. Work jointly to remove ISIS, stabilize their country, return migrants. Everyone is happy and we can focus on China.
when you say focus on China....can you explain what you mean by that? Do you mean their powerful economy?
#4726 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 518 weeks ago
but I think America's going to turn on them. Ivanka probably the most. She needs to shut down her stupid clothing & shoe lines with products made in sweatshops selling for $100+.
I disagree on Ivanka. Country is going to LOVE her. We basically have a Kardashian as the president's most high profile kid. Will media outlets be negative towards Ivanka? Of course. Will the general public gobble up Ivanka like Roseanne Barr on a loose meat sandwich? Absolutely.
I think get your point about Ivanka...I fucking hate the kardashians....in fact it makes me so angry when I see my gf watching it, it usually starts a fight. I see them as substance-less, no talent ass clowns who have been given the world because OJ murdered someone. I'm going to hate Ivanka for the same reason.
I really enjoyed Michelle Obama...she presented herself well and never took the bait of the haters. I also think she got behind some noble causes. On the same note...I hate Kanye...and I guess he just went on some sort of political rant....I wish he would stfu already....am I a hypocrite though because I usually liked Axl's rants lol
TheMole wrote:
I find it very strange that Liberals in the US defend the idea that you should be able to vote without proper ID. Just make an ID mandatory to have for every adult, make it easy to acquire and free of charge and all problems are solved, no? That's how virtually the rest of the civilized world does it...
Most rational people think like you. Unless you are a democrat and live in the United States.
On a superficial level....I guess I don't mind....but because I don't have an IQ of less than 100 I can think critically beyond the superficial level....but sometimes I am guilty of overthinking...parsimony is something I have to remind myself of...
I just ask you to consider that the law may prevent more eligible voters from voting than it does prevent voter fraud. I might take it one step farther and ask you to consider that perhaps that was the intent. Or at least part of the intent.
#4727 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 518 weeks ago
All this is the consequence of the Democratic Party's decision in the 1970s to get rid of all the normal people.
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That was actually a good article by Coulter.
She's got to be on the team. Press secretary please....with a cherry on top.
Sometimes I get the feeling your just trolling with comments like these....
In any case...it would be the ultimate troll because Coulter is a troll herself...
Awesome I figured it out!!!
#4728 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 518 weeks ago
All this is the consequence of the Democratic Party's decision in the 1970s to get rid of all the normal people.
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That was actually a good article by Coulter.
She's got to be on the team. Press secretary please....with a cherry on top.
Sometimes I get the feeling your just trolling with comments like these....
In any case...it would be the ultimate troll because Coulter is a troll herself...
#4729 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 518 weeks ago
The 1930's are so in right now.
This is hilarious. Remember when I just said Trump would most likely fuck up in spectacular fashion? It seems they're already imploding. The transition team has broken down. Read this https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics … story.html
And ironically, Pence is having his own email issues.
That's a very interesting article. I haven't watched much news the past few days. Crazy that Christie is persona non grata now. Giuliani no longer a possibility for AG?
I'm shocked that so many who want to be close to the establishment are bowing out so quickly. These people are not spring chickens....they may never taste power like that again.
I think the privilege of being able to directly contradict yourself over and over again in the way Trump has about the electoral college and so many other topics in writing, in public implies an enormous arrogance to me. He is so privileged he literally has no one to answer to about anything. So much so that he doesn't mind publicly and consistently contradicting himself.
I agree but I actually think its brilliant. He's already showing the ability to be a teflon president and is also a mirror of our culture to an extent. Everybody wants to blame the other guy and play the victim. Now suck it up buttercup and salute your victim in chief. 
Whether you like him or not......we deserve him.
Did this work?
Let's look at that tweet...about he could have just as easily won NY and California had he just spent a bit more time there.
He's right about Cali. I said it from day one even when I thought his campaign was a joke......if he campaigns heavily in Cali on the immigration issue and pounds the pavement til his knuckles bleed, he wins it. He didn't do that because like most republicans not named reagan he instantly assumes it will go blue. Now that he actually won he sees that he could've won the state.
At the core, student loans and scholarships aimed at assisting a poor person ascend to a college degree is good for everyone.
I agree....to an extent. Poor people who get good grades should most certainly be allowed the opportunity to go to college....but they cant allow anything with a pulse to get grants and loans for worthless degrees and in some cases wont even get those degrees.
I've known drug dealers who go to CA state just for the grants and easy access to new customers(students). Should Joe and Jill tax payer have to foot the bill for these types to go to college? Absolutely not. I'm not sure how to remove this element from the equation though.
Does this work?
When I say Asians routinely score better on math assessment tests, is that racism? Imagine a first generation minority student coming to the US and outperforming his/her white peers. How easy is it to say....that damn minority is getting a scholarship and an opportunity my son/daughter deserves because my genealogy in this country dates back one hundred years.
INteresting point but no I wouldn't call that racism. Look at the other angle......a white student with straight A's didn't get into the college they wanted because they accepted a black student with D's and F's thanks to affirmative action. Is that racism? Is it fair?
I won't waste my time if it's going to be dismissed.
Now that'll be a first.... 
I'm staying out of the discussion, but it is curious how focused some of you are on racism.
Yeah I had no idea until this year that this was such a major issue here.
I'm not a liberal, I'm a moderate. I'm really not liked by Democrats!
Come on now. You keep saying that but you fall in line with everything blue and hate everything that can even be perceived as possibly red. You'd follow Obama and Hillary through the gates of hell but you're a moderate? 
You either accept reality, or you do not. Bannon is a racist and anti Semite, shown by his work at Breitbart alone.
This is true.....
I didn't even know what the hell Breitbart was until I joined your site and saw Art posting links to it. A few good points here and there but I throw it in the rense/infowars category overall.
Trump is also packing his cabinet with lobbyists. I guess they'll deny that too.
Peachy keen.....
but I think America's going to turn on them. Ivanka probably the most. She needs to shut down her stupid clothing & shoe lines with products made in sweatshops selling for $100+.
I disagree on Ivanka. Country is going to LOVE her. We basically have a Kardashian as the president's most high profile kid. Will media outlets be negative towards Ivanka? Of course. Will the general public gobble up Ivanka like Roseanne Barr on a loose meat sandwich? Absolutely.
He's been great? It's just a few days since the election. He hasn't done much of anything other than meet Obama, tweet the usual crap, give a speech and talk to 60 minutes....he's been great!!!
No offense but this goes both ways SLC. He is getting heavily criticized even though its only been days.
Trump bringing people together. Give this man the peace prize.
Not a joke...he deserves it. Obama got one for absolutely nothing so give one to Trump as well. At least he's trying to ratchet down the chances of WWIII....which is more than Obama did when he won the prize.
Trumps son in law is his closest advisor, another reason there's a stink he's trying get him security clearance. Christie prosecuted his father, very publicly. He sent him to jail and had a press conference to totally humiliate him. Looks like pure retribution.
I guess he shouldn't be surprised Trump isn't licking his ass and probably should've seen which way the wind was going to blow.
Essentially...prior to the election last week...300,000 REGISTERED voters in Wisconsin still had not obtained the proper voter ID. Bare in mind that while simultaneously requiring some of the most strict voter ID laws in the country,
I'm sick of this voter ID shit. Its not rocket science for fucks sake.
Lets make it as simple as possible....bring your drivers license or ID to vote.....fuck...even your SS card. If you're still too stupid to vote, tough shit. I'm sick of people pretending that its hard to vote. Even illegals and dead people figure out a way to cast votes but breathing American citizens find it difficult?!?
You think Clinton knows who Rogers is? Think she's drinking a beer while eating some cheese talking about what model Harley she prefers? Milwaukee and Wisconsin in general is a bastion of white working class who heavily favored Trump.
I wish Icould find the video but there's no chance as I have no idea where the event was held or what state. It was the 2008 election during the primaries. She was at some event and hanging around a bunch of guys. Clearly a photo op of course but it got awkward when she was handed a huge mug of beer. She was clearly uncomfortable and wanted out of there immediately. She was out of her element. As they were taking pics, she put the mug up to her lips but didn't actually take a drink yet everyone standing next to her did. I knew that anyone in that state who watched that video would not vote for her.
People like Reagan, Kennedy, W, and even Bill can pull off those 'common man' moments and mingle but she cant.
I will not be put in the position of defending Hillary....
But someone wearing a burka was able to get Huma Abedin's manhattan ballot because they don't require ID.
That's disgusting.
This is why the snowflakes are smashing windows, beating up Trump supporters and calling for the assassination of Trump and the rape of his wife. If you've ever wondered how France's Reign of Terror happened, observe the anti-Trump protests — the main result of which is to convince people who had misgivings about voting for Trump that they did the right thing.
Absolutely.
All this is the consequence of the Democratic Party's decision in the 1970s to get rid of all the normal people.
That was actually a good article by Coulter.
She's got to be on the team. Press secretary please....with a cherry on top.
I find it very strange that Liberals in the US defend the idea that you should be able to vote without proper ID. Just make an ID mandatory to have for every adult, make it easy to acquire and free of charge and all problems are solved, no? That's how virtually the rest of the civilized world does it...
I don't understand the idiocy either.
However, there are places in this country where you have to wait hours in line to even vote.
There's an alternative that literally takes five seconds and zero effort....its called an absentee ballot. You don't even have to leave your damn house to vote. YOu do need a postage stamp so maybe that's too much of an effort or too complicated for some voters.
I walked into my voting booth in voted in five minutes. Why is it so difficult to vote in some areas? Doesn't anyone find that a bit curious?
No. Its one of those issues where the rest of us are supposed to pretend its difficult. I've been voting since I was 18 in two states...one red and one blue.....zero difficulties.
There are almost no DMVs in Milwaukee proper. Scott Walker shut them down.
There's something called the internet. The DMV is on it. Every dipshit has a smart phone. Let them get smart and use it for something other than FB or Pokemon.
I agree. Milo is a piece of shit, but he only has a following because even bigger, more worthless turds find him compelling.
I had to google the guy to know exactly what he does. I saw Breitbart and closed the tab.
I have a feeling he's one of those types who would probably go away if liberals would stop giving him so much attention.
Never before have I seen a president, or president elect, tell his constituents to "stop it" when a reporter brought up their aggressive racism towards other Americans.
Which interview was this?
Yeah this quote train is messy. I had about 10 pages to catch up on and I got lazy with the quotes....
I can't figure out this damn quote thing....damnit
#4730 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 518 weeks ago
mitchejw wrote:I just posted something about how disproportionate the voting is in Wisconsin at the state government level to the representation. Republicans have vast majority's in both places of Congress and a Republican governor.
62.5% of the representation goes to what 49% of the state voted for. Why that doesn't bother you boggles my fucking mind.
Who drew the districts? There's no way you'll have a perfect district and people 100 miles away shouldn't be in the same district as people in Madison or Milwaukee to leverage city voters pull either. Census is in 4 years, you'll have a chance to change it then.
I'm glad that you and I agree on most of this. In fact, we might agree on all of this. I think it's worth appreciating that not a single member on this board advocates voter fraud.
If voter fraud is something we really want to deal with then I think we can come up with a better way. A way that safeguards eligible voters as much as protects against voter fraud.
There are a couple of other posters here who are also adding interesting information on the topic.
I think it will be difficult to find 100% accurate statistics on who has been disenfranchised and how. I think we're going to have to just use logic and instincts to see that while the current policies on voter IDs very likely prevent voter fraud, I think it's also quite plausible that they disenfranchise some eligible voters as well. Unless both of those thingsare the intent of the law, I think it's worth considering the effect that these new rules have on elections.
