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#4431 Re: The Garden » The Right to Bear Arms » 915 weeks ago
If the arm you have the right to bear is a musket, fine. I understand that it's tough to accept now, and I think more restrictions should be placed on gun liscences. But attacking the 2nd amendment right now is not a way to get the country together, and lack of unity is our biggest problem. Has been since Jacksonian Democracy took root.
So then the internet, radio and television aren't protected forms of speech because they didn't exist at the time? The Musket was the most advanced firearm existent - it also served as the best form of defense. If the medium in which ideas are discussed has evolved and is still protected, why wouldn't that same standard apply to firearms?
Honestly how many of you are even familiar with firearms? And by familiar I mean understand how they operate, how held one and even fired one? For most people a gun is this foreign object that holds almost mythical status. If someone was teaching a class on Math, don't you think they should at least know a thing or two about the subject? If the media is this biased entity that feeds us lies or half truths, why would you all of a sudden by into their horror stories about firearms?
Big Bri. By taking responsibility for our actions we don't blame the system or others for our decisions. We don't let people out of jail because we feel they were dealt a bad hand. If you accept responsibility for yourself, you're not dependent on others to provide your security and protection. While Police are great at what they do, they always come after the crime, rarely during.
The background check system we have in place is great. I even agree to preventing those found mentally unstable to be added to the list. But why should a law abiding American with no criminal or mental history be prohibited from buying a firearm? Just because a firearm could be used to harm someone doesn't mean it will. Much more car accidents occur than gun violence, but we don't ban cars.
For those that advocate we outlaw firearms, simply look at what has happened to the property crime rates in both England and Austrailia after their gun grabs. Only when Bush instituted stiffer penalties and prosecution of gun offenders did crime come down.
Just because you're scared and don't understand something doesn't mean you should try to make it go away.
#4432 Re: The Garden » The Right to Bear Arms » 915 weeks ago
#4433 Re: The Garden » The Right to Bear Arms » 915 weeks ago
First off, there aren't alot of crazies out there and shootings like this are anything but common (that's why the media gobbles it up). The 2nd Amendment isn't about hunting or target shooting. It's not even directly about self-protection. The 2nd Amendment is the only amendment that truly empowes society. It serves as the defacto clause should America's government become corrupt with tyranny.
Let's say that Bush really was a fascist bent on power (which is obviously false for so many reasons, but...) who had no intention of stepping down as President. What could you as an American citizen do? The military and police all serve as the enforcement for our government, so you can't say that they'd automatically protect you. The answer without private firearms is you could do absolutely nothing but bitch, and if you did that you'd be removed.
There is this OpEd floating around on the internet about 10 steps to fascism; as if there is a defined format or structure. It list all these vague tasks that must be undertook (or may have already happend if you like conspiracies) in order to install a fascist regime. It however doesn't mention the predecessor that all fascist regimes have enacted first - the confiscation and outlawing of all privately owned firearms.
A gun is a tool just like a hammer or pencil. Guns cause violence like spoons make Rosie O'Donnel fat. Rather than enact feel good legislation, let's hold people accountable for their actions. The true danger to our society isn't guns, but moral relativst that refuse to make judgements which allow people to become thugs and criminals (read people who see no problem with single mother families). It's foolish and naieve to think that outlawing guns would make them go away. If we used the same logic that is advocated by gun grabbers, the war on drugs should be a total success correct? However the exact opposite is true and narcotics are stronger and more plentiful than prior to the war on drugs.
No one is obligated to carry a gun as you say. They do however have the right to. They also have the responsibility to exercise good judgement and know their limitations. Those that fail to do so should be penalized rather than blaming an inanimate object.
As you can tell, this is a mjaor issue for me. But I've spent enough time BSing, time to finish my mid-term.
R.F.
#4434 Re: The Garden » NEW MEMBERS introduce yourself here » 918 weeks ago
Howdy. I'm Randall Flagg, former member of ROV and most famously known from The Jungle on HTGTH. You guys run an awesome site and I'm glad to see it up and running and all the member contribution.
#4435 Re: The Garden » Guess the album cover game » 918 weeks ago
First one is Darkside of The Moon by Pink Floyd
