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#31 Re: Guns N' Roses » This New Paradigm - so many questions.. » 499 weeks ago
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5. Why would Duff & Slash agree to play anything from CD? Does that mean Axl will sing Fall to Pieces and Slither in return?
The ONLY reason to do any of this will be because CD II, and possibly a Slash & Duff remix of CD I, are around the corner for release. The only reason I could see Axl performing VR material, is as a tribute to Scott Weiland, if Slash & Duff request it and Axl's cool with it. Then again, Scott talked a LOAD of shit about Axl.
I just couldn't see Axl performing VR and Slash-solo material (would LOVE to hear Axl on "Ghost"), unless Axl/Slash/Duff are planning some sort of 'redux' gimmick where they re-release all their songs in a box set as "Guns N' Roses" songs to try to start over with this post-1993, and start fresh, re-recording each others best songs in a "Greatest Hits that never were" type of set.
I think this is a really cool idea actually.
Guns N' Roses: Greatest Hits... and some that never were (2016)
Disc 1:
ALL GN'R catalog songs from 87-91
Disc 2:
Shuffle It All 2016 (feat. Izzy & Steven)
Time Gone By 2016 (feat. Izzy & Steven)
Beggars & Hangers On 2016 (feat. Axl & Izzy)
Mean Bone 2016 (feat. Axl)
Ghost 2016 (feat. Axl)
Back From Cali 2016 (feat. Axl)
Watch This 2016 [w/ lyrics] (feat. Axl & Steven)
Sucker Train Blues 2016 (feat. Axl & Izzy)
Slither 2016 (feat. Axl & Izzy)
Fall To Pieces 2016 [new lyrics] (feat. Axl & Izzy)
Set Me Free 2016 (feat. Axl & Izzy)
Messages 2016 [new lyrics] (feat. Axl & Izzy)All the Chinese stuff would get re-recorded and released as "Guns N' Roses"
I think it's a neat little idea.
That was a fucking GREAT post Axlin, thanks for taking the time!
You raised some great points but I'm really intrigued by your idea about a re-recorded CD I and II with Duff & Slash on it. That would be fucking amazing!
Also, will we get a re-mastered UYI box set also? More than likely...I'd love to hear what their 22 year musical journeys apart would do to the sound of those albums today...I bet Slash would strip the shit out of it...Axl may put some wacky atmospherics on some of it rather than the cowboy saloon keyboard..the entire thing could emerge as a whole new type of albums.
Finally on this subject, I just fucking love your idea of the "Album that Never Was" .
These guys could mine the shit out of their past. If they work it like Soundgarden did, it could be an orgy of material for us to revisit and consume for years to come.
I don't expect or really want VR in the set list as for me, this reunion needs to be as pure as possible i.e. with the retrospective clock stopping at 1993, at least for the early tour dates...maybe if they go on a second round of touring, they could blow up their sets with a nod to each others better material...once people have stopped blowing their load about the old trinity just being there in front of them. I hold CD in that bracket also. There were no hits the size of Slither from it so while it is technically GNR, the buying public will never agree.
That said, I still dream of hearing Axl do "Sucker Train Blues" while screaming the verses like a banshee rather than singing them in low register like Scott did. Likewise, I still hope to hear what Slash would do to lift "If the World" and "This I Love" to a whole new level.
Back to the questions, they are huge and may never be answered...there is so much potential here but so much baggage at the same time...I will always feel that this thing will be a knife edge no matter how far along they go..its part of their fucking charm I suppose.
#32 Guns N' Roses » This New Paradigm - so many questions.. » 500 weeks ago
- Intercourse
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Hi all,
Like 99% of you I am very excited about all of this but there are so many questions around the people involved that I would give my left nut to see how things are going behind the scenes because frankly for us fans there are mind boggling conversations between these guys that must have been had and there are many more to go...
1. Will we ever hear about Axl & Slash's very first face to face?
Where did it happen? Who was there? Were grisly conflicts discussed and put to rest? Did they have a professional mediator?
2. Will both men ever explain publically how the axe was buried?
Will both men fess up for their now mythical bad deeds towards each other? Apologize publicly? Will they do a chat show/major interview together?
3. How have Duff & Slash managed dealing with Axl's team including Beta and others who have been less than honorable towards the old guys?
Will Beta have to address the fallout they created for Slash after he called to Ax's house? Do Jarmo and Del have to relearn their roles now that all is rosy in the garden? Are Duff and Slash even aware of the kind of vitriol that those guys publicly displayed towards them?
4. If the money is so good and the excitement levels so high, why wouldn't Izzy jump straight in for the start and then bail if its not to his liking - not the other way 'round?
Is he holding out for Steven? Has he already seen shit break out between both sides that spooked him? He is writing, which he loves most but his reluctance to play could indicate that he's at odds with things going on there - the nuGNR players maybe?
5. Why would Duff & Slash agree to play anything from CD? Does that mean Axl will sing Fall to Pieces and Slither in return?
Has Axl forced their hands on this? I am excited to hear Slash's take on the tunes but surely everybody in the room except Axl knows that almost nobody in the crowd is holding out for anything off CD. They'll be praying for "Breakdown" rather than "Prostitute".
I could add five more to this easily, its fucking fascinating stuff and someone better write a book about this or make a documentary. For me, this would be up there with my desire to get that UYI tour movie footage.
If any of you have info/thoughts/opinions/conspiracy theories or more unanswered questions, I'd love to hear them.
Cheers,
Intercourse
#33 Re: Guns N' Roses » Big Surprise - We're almost all on the same side! » 500 weeks ago
Intercourse wrote:I am delighted that the forums in general are lit up over this reunion and all the haters from both sides have quietly stopped the civil war.
Surely we can all find something to bicker about...
Oh don't worry Cramer, once the band emerge there will be a honeymoon period among the diehards, probably lasting until the end of "Jungle" and then the bitching will start again..
#34 Re: Guns N' Roses » Big Surprise - We're almost all on the same side! » 500 weeks ago
Any thoughts that Slash, Izzy & Duff will play on his CD II stash and let him put it out?
They can't care that much about "GNR" if they've been gone over twenty years so why not?
#35 Guns N' Roses » Big Surprise - We're almost all on the same side! » 500 weeks ago
- Intercourse
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I am delighted that the forums in general are lit up over this reunion and all the haters from both sides have quietly stopped the civil war.
I just hope Axl can face the level of expectation and overcome any bullshit stage fright and just get out there and enjoy this..
#36 Re: Guns N' Roses » Watching Welcome to the Videos » 500 weeks ago
The last 3 minutes of Rocket Queen...holy motherfucking shit. Everything about that is just perfect and it's probably the greatest album ender in rock history (along with Jungle as the greatest opener).
I always thought it was just me who loved that song ending so much, its just the most perfect piece of rock music ever, its sincerity and warmth after the song that came before it is like sunshine after rain. Its what I hope to hear again from the reunion, the effortless perfection of riffs, tones, lyrics, vocals and band groove.
#37 Re: Guns N' Roses » Alan Niven interview 01-08- 2016 » 502 weeks ago
I don't hate Niv at all, I don't personally see much to hate. He's another guy from the period drama that was GNR with his version of events. For me Izzy's continued allegiance to him is something I cannot discount. Izzy was the first to get sober and start pointing out what the fuck was wrong with all sides in GNR and left because of them.
Like the rest of the guys, time will change his tune - there have been enough years to cool off and reflect. Can't blame him for being somewhat bitter either, he believes he worked hard for them, could have made them an enduring global musical force but ended up fucked onto the trash heap. He's just human.
I still think he could be a great manager for them but that scab ain't going to heal. Axl needs to be managed - that has been proven conclusively.
Personally, I see more balls, honor and professionalism in him than the selection of bottom feeders that hung on after he was gone.
#38 Re: Guns N' Roses » MATT SORUM Refuses To Comment On GUNS N' ROSES Reunion Lineup » 502 weeks ago
I'd love for the historically accurate "Classic GNR" to tour, i.e. Matt & Stephen sharing duties.
Matt can play guitar and piano, he could look at doing lots of other shit while Stephen is on.
#39 Re: Guns N' Roses » Something is up with Pitman » 502 weeks ago
Don't get your hopes up. If this means anything it is far more serious than no Pitman.
I was just informed by mgmt to not acknowledge anything about coachella, gnr, etc. So there, denied!
I think you're right - maybe the battle for the soul of this new entity is already raging...
#40 Re: Guns N' Roses » Cat out of the bag? » 511 weeks ago
Real managers don't fuck around, much less with us forum nuts. Did you see Azoff come to the forums? No. Why? He was too busy lining up Rock Band, that film, and CD's release. He got fired and all we've gotten since are on and off nostalgia tours.
Bring back Azoff!
Good to see ya back Intercourse.
Hey James,
I never left to be honest, just lurked. Been taking on the loonies in MyGNR for something to do.
This is always my port of call, you did invite me here back in the days of HTGTH and I always appreciated that.
Strange times for GNR, hope we'll all have lots to discuss soon.
