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#351 Re: Guns N' Roses » What songs would you like to hear on CD2?? » 845 weeks ago
I think Medicine and Detox are made up by trolls. In fact, I'm pretty sure they are, because I only see them brought up ad nausem at MSL's site and chinesedemocracy.com and nowhere else.
but seriously, these threads are suited for chidem and mygnr. Not having heard any of the songs, all we do is speculate on titles we think sound cool. Honestly, which songs would we NOT want to hear?
#352 Re: Guns N' Roses » What songs would you like to hear on CD2?? » 845 weeks ago
all of them?
#353 Re: Guns N' Roses » If the Skwerl » 845 weeks ago
From Skwerl's blog, 12 days before he leaked the songs:
"While working at Universal, I encountered an exec who had heard a bunch of the songs. When I asked him flat out if it was any good, he solemnly lowered his eyes and tone, and said, “Seriously? It’s some of the best fucking music I’ve ever heard in my life."
I remember seeing that quote before the album came out, and remembered shaking my head at seeing it after the album came out.
I love Chinese Democracy, but come on!
#354 Re: Guns N' Roses » If the Skwerl » 845 weeks ago
#355 Re: Guns N' Roses » If the Skwerl » 845 weeks ago
I labeled you a hater because you accused him of lying and attributed actions and statements to him that he never did or said.
We have some common ground here, mainly that the RIAA are a bunch of pricks, what Skwerl did was stupid, and that we appreciate the songs.
Skwerl mentioned all three of these things in his interview.
You somehow think that investing time, money, sleepless nights, and all sorts of BS is negated if they mention their website or profession. Like if they don't do all of this completely anonymously that they're just shills and were in it for the exposure and traffic all along -- regardless of the cost in legal bills, time, etc.
The attention to MSL's website, career, and music is a byproduct, not the objective.
I don't care that you say that Skwerl is stupid for doing what he did, the only thing I was flabbergasted by was you labeling him as a liar and smug. He's as open and honest about what he did as anyone else in his position. You were literally pulling things out of thin air about him.
And why would I give someone negative karma? I don't even waste my time with that crap.
#356 Re: Guns N' Roses » i'm back » 845 weeks ago
That is NUTS. I wonder how he got Shackler's after all that crap, and how anyone will get anything from now on.
#357 Re: Guns N' Roses » If the Skwerl » 845 weeks ago
I’m not crying about it or asking for sympathy or anything; I saw it as paying the price for what I did. But you asked, and the answer is: a whole shitload of money.
But hey, I’d rather give that money to a lawyer than pay it to RIAA in fines or restitution or as part of some settlement. I’m not saying that out of any kind of hatred for RIAA or anything. I just don’t play that game. I completely respect their right to prosecute me for what I did, and I always admit it when I’ve made a mistake. But I also respect my own right to fight fucking tooth and nail and make them prove everything they claim in a court of law; especially when they make it a criminal case. It’s nothing personal. That’s just how this country’s justice system is supposed to work.
BOOM. ROASTED.
But here's some more.
Less than 2% of my legal fees came from donations, not including bills I’m still waiting for. It was a few hundred dollars over the past year, most during the first two days of me having a donation button available. Twenty-five people donated, including my girlfriend. Most of the donations were in the ballpark of $5, and a couple people shocked the hell out of me with their generosity. I definitely, sincerely appreciate the support. It meant a lot to me. I’m trying to figure out something really cool I can do for those twenty-five people to let them know how much I appreciate it.
I’m happy to lay this out for you though. Once upon a time I had a site that ran up astronomical hosting bills, yet was home to a really cool, supportive community. I opened the donation jar, and it was pretty much the same deal; I got less than 2% of what I owed the hosting company. So in the end, we got shut down. That was eons ago, but to this day, every once in a while, someone will bring it up, and ask where “all that donation money went” like I’m Bernie fucking Madoff. If there’s ever any backlash with this case, if some troll goes on a tirade someday about how I avoided a costly trial just so I could pocket donated legal fees, or how thousands of pro-piracy communist hippies rallied together to buy my freedom or some shit, you can direct them here.
2%. "shocked by generosity." He didn't beg, but people were willing to donate. Should he have told them to fuck off? You're attributing things to him that he never, ever, did.
Jump off the skwerl hatewagon, dude.
#358 Re: Guns N' Roses » If the Skwerl » 845 weeks ago
Of course your opinion is valid. I'm not coming at this from a "I'm right, you're an idiot" pov.
But dude, people were willing to donate. I regret not doing so, to be honest. Him putting the proverbial tip jar out there doesn't obligate him or attribute to him the statement of "you have to."
If you think MSL is full of shit, you obviously haven't been following him very much. He was the first to leak the release date, the exclusive contract, and a ton of inside stuff.
Someone else mentioned that when he described the beta call, people doubted him and said "there's no way that they still hold that much of a grudge towards Slash."
What happened next? Axl said Slash would have to DIE for a reunion to happen.
Nothing MSL has ever said has panned out false. Sorry, it just hasn't. He has credibility.
But I digress, him doing interviews AFTER he was tried, conviced, caught, whatever, is not retarded or arrogant. What damage would it do?
The RIAA is the bad guy here. Apart from being the single biggest reason that mainstream music is in the shitter, they go after FANS for downloading music, instead of buying into their payola driven, commercialized nickelback garbage.
There is no evidence that Skwerl is lying about any of this, and as far as I'm concerned, just because he wants to maintain his influential voice online, that doesn't make him a liar or a whore.
#359 Re: Guns N' Roses » If the Skwerl » 845 weeks ago
mygnrsucks wrote:Dude, where did he ever beg for sympathy??! He never asked anyone to feel sorry for him, wtf. He even said he was dumb for doing it and the overblown fashion that he was arrested in was directly proportional to the overblown fashion he leaked them in.
You're just making shit up, dude. Stop trying to paint him as a wanna be martyr. He did the time, it was bullshit, he took it like a man, and he did an interview.
Where does that make him smug?
He did a dumb thing, then he got sentenced. What do you want him to do? Go into Axl recluse mode?
Fuck that, he interacts with the community he always did. He didn't change a damn thing. The only people who are arrogant smug attention whores are the ones who are complaining about it.
He asked for money. HE ASKED FOR FUCKING MONEY.
For his legal fees dude.
Go look it up. That's begging for sympathy.
He felt that we, the community, should pay his legal fees, because he leaked shit.
The dude is a smug fucking retard.
Knowing he'd get a fraction of what was necessary. We all downloaded them, I don't think asking for a pittance to fight the RIAA (something we'd all love to do) is too much.
He never said we were obligated to, he never said that "he felt that we, the community, should pay his legal fees."
You're taking things way outta context, bro.
#360 Re: Guns N' Roses » If the Skwerl » 845 weeks ago
Dumb, yes.
Begging for sympathy? Smug? Arrogant? no way.
He freely admits that doing it in the way he did was stupid, and that he shoulda seen it coming. Does that make the RIAA or FBI any less full of shit? No way.
It's just a little ridiculous to call him all these names and accuse him of lying on every count just because he talks about stuff -- AFTER THE FACT. Him doing interviews doesn't make what he did any better, worse, dumber or more clever, but it does inform us and give us a peek inside the goings on of something the vast majority of us have an interest in.
