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#341 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 215 weeks ago
faldor wrote:metallex78 wrote:Making up for lost money…. that’s funny, when they’ve all made more money than anyone would need for several lifetimes.
Money is clearly the only motivating factor for Axl’s absolutely abysmal display, because he doesn’t seem to care enough to put any effort into his performance.
Just because they already have a lot of money doesn’t mean they don’t want/need more. They’re used to living a certain lifestyle and were taking in millions a year and that all went away suddenly. I know it’s not easy to hear or comprehend, but it’s reality.
From the clips I saw, they seemed to be in good spirits. So I don’t agree that they’re just going through the motions and don’t care what product they’re putting out. They’re doing it for the money. They added Dead Horse, granted it’s only 1 song, but it’s something. You’re Crazy hasn’t been played a lot either. Slither is played to throw a bone to Slash and Duff playing the CD songs.
I get the frustration, but I also get what they’re doing and why they’re doing it. We’ve been having the same discussions and complaints for years now. Shame on us if we keep on spinning our wheels. I’m skipping out on this tour, mainly because of finances and other things. I’d love to hear Dead Horse though, despite the lackluster performance last night. But I’d rather wait for some more substantial changes.
As Axl alluded to a few times though, we spent a year locked in our houses basically and we’re back to bitching about the same things. So I guess we are indeed back to normal. I try to enjoy what we do have instead of dwelling on what we don’t, but that’s just me. To each their own.
Dead Horse debuted in 2019 and has been played in every show since, including all five of the last 2019 shows, and both 2020 shows. It cannot be considered an addition at this point. Maybe if it was played sporadically like Locomotive, but that's not the case.
Haha, you beat me!
#342 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 215 weeks ago
metallex78 wrote:Making up for lost money…. that’s funny, when they’ve all made more money than anyone would need for several lifetimes.
Money is clearly the only motivating factor for Axl’s absolutely abysmal display, because he doesn’t seem to care enough to put any effort into his performance.
Just because they already have a lot of money doesn’t mean they don’t want/need more. They’re used to living a certain lifestyle and were taking in millions a year and that all went away suddenly. I know it’s not easy to hear or comprehend, but it’s reality.
From the clips I saw, they seemed to be in good spirits. So I don’t agree that they’re just going through the motions and don’t care what product they’re putting out. They’re doing it for the money. They added Dead Horse, granted it’s only 1 song, but it’s something. You’re Crazy hasn’t been played a lot either. Slither is played to throw a bone to Slash and Duff playing the CD songs.
I get the frustration, but I also get what they’re doing and why they’re doing it. We’ve been having the same discussions and complaints for years now. Shame on us if we keep on spinning our wheels. I’m skipping out on this tour, mainly because of finances and other things. I’d love to hear Dead Horse though, despite the lackluster performance last night. But I’d rather wait for some more substantial changes.
As Axl alluded to a few times though, we spent a year locked in our houses basically and we’re back to bitching about the same things. So I guess we are indeed back to normal. I try to enjoy what we do have instead of dwelling on what we don’t, but that’s just me. To each their own.
They played Dead Horse pre Covid as well. They added that last tour.
#343 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 215 weeks ago
Looking forward to the new slash album coming out on Gibson Records. At least we will get some new music
#344 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 215 weeks ago
Someone on HTGTH posted this defense of Axl:
"There was absolutely nothing wrong with his voice. I was up front in the PIT. His mic was cutting out randomly throughout the songs. A good example was during Better. I heard him hammering the lyrics but they didn't come out over the sound system. The "gasp of air" people are referring to is him not choosing to sing those lyrics because they were vocally intense. OR the mic was cutting out. He used those moments to communicate with the sound guys. You can see him by the drums looking to the side stage, talking into the mic, pointing around, and like he's explaining things to some one. It seemed like he was talking to the sound people more than singing.
He gave up the vocally intense lyrics after Better. Just YouTube Jungle. He didn't even attempt the opening scream and did the ending using very clean and safe vocals.
I hope they get things fixed for the next show so he can give 100%."
SHUT THE FUCK UP AND STOP BLAMING THE FUCKING SOUND MAN!!!! Axl is 60 almost and every bad show they blame the sound man. EVERY FUCKING TIME. If it is the sound man call the AC/DC sound man and hire him.
#345 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 215 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:Slither was embarrassingly bad. Axl can’t sing that in the range Weiland did, and the Mickey voice during the chorus is grating.
I remember when he was recapturing his prime.... kicking ass with GNR, fronting AC/DC, and performing with Billy Joel, I thought....what can't he do?!?
I started wishing he would tackle Soundgarden songs....and when Cornell died I thought....oh shit, here it comes....can it really happen?
The thought of him fronting Soundgarden to help them finish the tour was a hardcore fan of both bands wet dream from hell.....
Can you imagine it now? I shudder at the thought. It would've been a disaster of epic proportions. He would not have won over the crowd like he did with AC/DC....he would've been booed off the stage.
Prime era Axl could have done anything. CALL KEN TAMPLIN NOW!
#346 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 215 weeks ago
Randall, how was Wolfgang/Mammoth?
#347 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 215 weeks ago
Smoking Guns wrote:What Sammy Hagar or Ronnie James Dio before he died at their age was amazing. Hell even Mick Jagger sings better than Axl. Maybe Axl DC did ruin him.
Jagger enjoys being onstage. It means everything to him. He runs several miles a day to stay in shape...which is insane at his age.
The only time in the past 15 years when he sounded like he was recapturing his prime is when he was sitting on that throne.
True... and I will say Slash with Myles is better than Slash with GNR mainly because Slash has a far better drummer with Myles than he has in GNR.
#348 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 215 weeks ago
What Sammy Hagar or Ronnie James Dio before he died at their age was amazing. Hell even Mick Jagger sings better than Axl. Maybe Axl DC did ruin him.
#349 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 215 weeks ago
Axl needs to call Ken Tamplin. Plain and simple, get a coach to fix his fucking voice.
#350 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 215 weeks ago
This VR song is more Axl’s style