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#311 Re: Guns N' Roses » Song Idea for GNR » 517 weeks ago
That is fucking brilliant.
#312 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 517 weeks ago
What damage has he done? He's not even president yet.
ON one hand it is troubling but on the other you can see where he's coming from. The major media outlets were just propaganda wings of the HIllary 2016 machine, didn't even bother hiding this fact, and now its time for Trump to cook up that dish that's best served cold.
Said it before but the media needs some sort of reset. Its time to go back to actually covering the news as neutral observers.....not pushing agendas and telling us how much they hate specific people and love another and you're a worthless piece of trash if you disagree with them.
It doesn't work anymore....obviously.
I cant wait for historians down the road to give an honest account of how all of this transpired. We're now too close to the event for that. Everything in general needs to settle down and both extremes pull their panties back up.
The major media outlets have been exposed to a degree. We may even be in the opening phase of a backlash.
If there's a positive to take from that meeting, it's that he actually name dropped specific individuals and outlets. It would be much more disturbing if he was against all media in general. If his meeting yesterday were to become a huge media story, there will be no controversy because many people agree with the basic overall point. I wouldn't label them all as liars either but they were definitely pushing an agenda.
The damage he's done is foster attitudes and an atmosphere that gives rise to people to express ignorant opinions & actions they should be ashamed of. He's enabled a hatred to become acceptable. He's lowered the standard of expectation with his behaviour. He's a bully.
& this thing about the media being propaganda wings of Hillary is bizarre. The media LOVE Trump & have given him unprecedented coverage, somewhere in the region of 5billion worth of FREE air time! They have helped elect him by keeping him as the sole news story. He tweets at 3am, they report it at 8 & run with it all day long, until he says something crass & vulgar the next morning and the cycle starts again.
No shit they're pushing an agenda. Trump means ratings. You think guys like Kaisch & Sanders bring the same heat?
You are in the opening phase of a backlash that's true. He's going to do his best to dismantle the freedom of the press & tough up libel/defamation laws, or soften them as the case may actually be.
It's hard to think of anyone, operating in any medium, who has benefitted more from the media than Trump. There really isn't anyone, or anything. That's kinda what unprecedented means..
I really don't understand where you Trump supporters are coming from on this, except of course singing from the hymn sheet you've been given.
#313 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 517 weeks ago
A reality TV star who behaves like bully & espouses reactionary regressive ideas in the highest office of public service.. yea, the entertainment value argument is totally undermined by the significance of the damage it's doing.
The whole idea was a really bad joke from the beginning that got completely out of hand & now look at what you've got..
#314 Re: The Garden » Football » 517 weeks ago
Inevitable really, bottom of qualifying isn't good enough. Would be a disaster for US football if they didn't qualify for Russia 2018. I expect a Hiddink/Van Gaal type replacement ie dutch has been.
Although Allradyce is available and he has a 100% win ratio as a national coach.
The Dutch do have history of settling America.. tho that's a different settling isn't it..
Yes to Allardyce - send Big Sam & Farage across the pond asap!
Sorry for hijacking thread btw. American football is a misnomer. First of all you lot don't use a ball, it's an egg. Secondly, it hardly ever gets kicked. Ffs how the fuck do you get the "foot" part?
Outrageous!
I actually like the sport. I much prefer it to rugby. But when you call a thread Football, well you're kinda asking for a smartarse like APE to come along and start talking about soccerball..
#315 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 517 weeks ago
polluxlm wrote:James Lofton wrote:President-elect Donald Trump exploded at media bigs in an off-the-record Trump Tower powow on Monday, sources told The Post.
“It was like a f—ing firing squad,” said one source.
“Trump started with Jeff Zucker and said I hate your network, everyone at CNN is a liar and you should be ashamed….
This right here is why the fan base will die for this man. When have we ever seen anything like this?
That was awesome to see, or read.
Strikes me as very petty, and childish. A childish, childlike display of strength. I get some people like a strongman leader, but those people are usually Putinbots.
To answer polluxlum, we've seen the likes of this all too often in history. It's called an abuse of power. You still see it around the world. Maybe you should move to the Philippines if you're impressed by this sorta temperament.
Surely you'd want your leader to be magnanimous & even mercifully, forgiving and fair. But maybe not. Maybe the example he's setting and the culture he's enabling are your cup of tea. To me it's repulsive, sad, worrying and unedifying. Divisive, that word SG is so keen on.
Crucially tho, it's a distraction technique to the appointments he is making.
In fairness to the transition/PR team they're well capable of controlling the media & the easily led, such as our friends on here.
They have proven over the course of the campaign their ability to change the story being talked about, and continue to do so. "If you don't like what's being talked about, change the conversation." They're really excellent at manipulating people via this technique. But then, people make it easy for them by buying so fully into it with whatever their own motivations are, these people are willing participants.
#316 Re: The Garden » Football » 517 weeks ago
Yes, with the rise in nationalism in the US + the poor performances & results, it was obvious Klinsmann was going to be sacked.
Given Trumps love of football it was only a matter of time. You can't be having an foreigner/immigrant in charge.
#317 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 517 weeks ago
The Duffer: https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/h … ff-mckagan
A bit off topic but since this is the hot topic I figure it's the best place to share it.
"There is some super heavy shit going down in the world right now. I don't need to pile-on and write some piece of shit article to create another snazzy social media "headline" for people to click on and fucking "like.""
*hits like/share button*
+ he shares my Huh?
What a cool guy.
#318 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 517 weeks ago
$45,000 for a fuckin ugly fuckin watch?! Fuck.
Better than that spending the money on some hokey shit like Yoda I suppose. Fuck tho. Just fuck. What a fuckin nut.
#319 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 517 weeks ago
Smoking Guns wrote:Axl'a most recent tweet is the Lamest shit I have ever seen. A watch commercial where he is the star. A very shitty sellout commercial. Good thing he has integrity.
Do you like Guns for their political opinions or songs? I personally think Axl is playing with fire kind of like Weiland did in 2004. But he's free to his opinions. I can't think of one major Hollywood director besides Eastwood who isn't far to the left, but I don't watch their movies cause I agree with all of their opinions.
Do you know the opinions of the CEOs of the all the companies you buy from? I just think giving any attention to this stuff accomplishes nothing. People who think their opinions are better because celebrities share them are idiots. I think you'd agree with that. So if you do, you have to agree that people who get upset because a celebrity doesn't share their opinion is equally stupid.
Surely there's a difference & distinction to be made between artists & celebrities & businesspeople - even if a number of artists are businesspeople & celebrities as well..
I honestly don't know if it would bother me if Axl was a Trump voter/supporter. I do know when I read Vince Neil was playing the inauguration I was like, "yea that makes sense, he's a fucking asshole."
#320 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 517 weeks ago
Tho maybe that watch is responsible for his new found time keeping skills. If so it's paid for itself already. However he was more fun when he was unpredictable & you never knew when (or if) he would show up. Throw the watch in the river, Axl. You don't need it buddy.
