i am sorry but that is ridiculous, there is nothing commercial about UYI, or lies, you're an idiot. "police and niggers/immigrants and faggots", yes you're right! thats something people from all echelons of society can enjoy. and 10 minute songs, 2 hours worth of album, two released at the same time, yeahhhhh that just reeks of commercialisation, i can think of so many illiterate teen-boppers who would have been jumping out their skin to sink their teeth into the complexities of 'coma' or 'estranged', but of cause what am i doing, thinking logically? if anything the UYi albums are less commercial than AFD. but hey, what am i talking about, you read somewhere that the UYI albums aren't as good as AFD, so GNR 'sold out' when making them. christ, some people.

publics perception of the album? the public don't have a perception of UYI

i believe axl is mixed up with the whole spiritualistic vibe stuff, but to take msl's account of conversations with beta, about the GNR camp and how they dwell on slash, hate us all etc, as fact is downright stupid.

also, what the fuck is with suggesting Axl start performing political or anti-establishment rants on stage? since when does that restore your 'street cred', that is absurd. GNR were never overly anti-establishment(bar civil war) in their lyrics or their attitude, they signed with the biggest record company available to them at the time, sold amazingly, and were never overly-political. if Axl began ranting about the oil crisis, iraq war etc. people wouldn't suddenly recognise him as some anti-establishment rock star preacher, rather  they'd just be like "wtf is he talking about, the motherfucker lives in a mansion in Malibu".

that being said, whenever any rockstar/celebrity starts preaching anti-establishment propaganda it always comes off as a facade to me, and generally always is. even John Lydon ofthe sex-pistols, the supposed antithesis of the establishment, does reality tv shows now, its kinda pathetic.

the best thing axl could do to restore his street cred, if he ever lost any in the first place, would be to be himself. hes always possessed that 'fuck you' attitude, whether it be giving harley the big 'FU" for leaking the ad, or not pandering to dr. pepper, diving off the stage to attack a bikey, canceling shows, turning up late etc. if he started attempting to be some sort of political advocate, it wouldn't restore his street cred, it would demolish it.

its amazing how people actually believe this fat fucker, hes admittedly a manipulative, lying, cunning fat bastard . thats how he acquired the leaks, and that is how he is associated with this whole affair, there is no doubt that he embellished, or even made up the conversations with Beta, but like said if it were true...fuck beta.

please don't jump to conclusions though, eg. OH HOLY CHRIST FUCK AXL HATES US ALL!