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#291 Re: The Sunset Strip » Anne Heche dead at 53 » 150 weeks ago

James wrote:

Yeah it's a combination of the Ellen fiasco and mental illness. We know from Steve Martin that she was not opposed to sleeping her way to the top. Watch Bowfinger....Heather Graham's character is based on Heche.

If the Ellen thing doesn't happen and she can somehow continue that momentum, her career turns out differently. Might not be better due to the mental issues....but different.

The sleeping her way to the top is kind of Hollywood hypocrisy at it's best.  It's been done before Anne Heche and after Anne Heche.  It's like a dirty open secret in Hollywood.

It might be the Ellen thing.  After you come out, there's only so many different type of roles you can think.  I think if she doesn't do that she probably has a "normal" career where she has a few more top notch roles before moving down the food chain.  Anyway you mentioned Moore in another thread, I had to look it up, I'd forgotten some of her 90s bombs.  I think she's kind of forgotten now and well more famous for being Bruce Willis' ex wife.

#292 Re: The Sunset Strip » Anne Heche dead at 53 » 150 weeks ago

The entire period from the Ellen thing to the early 2000s to me is just weird.  I mean she was in her late 20s/early 30s so it's not like she was hitting the "midlife" roles where you can typecast as supporting characters, usually married ones. 

She was in a lot of successful movies + the psycho remake.  I'm not arguing she should have been given A list movie roles.  But  she got dumped into tv/dtv stuff pretty quickly for someone who was in the prime of her career.

Maybe the most logical explaination is the simplest:  her mental issues were a big hurdle.

#293 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 150 weeks ago

Resurrection.  1999 Christopher Lambert film.  It's HEAVILY infleunced by Se7en.  But it works because of the mood (this thing has a ton of darkly lit, in the rain scenes type) and the characters are interesting, most of the plot and Lambert films are a guilty pleasure of mine to watch.
Nice shots of Chicago though.

The Maid .  2020 Thai horror film.  The first half is stronger with the supernatural stuff.  It loses momentum in the second half and becomes a normal thriller.  There's a bloody finish.  I think it's probably a solid film.  Bonus points for being beautifully filmed.

All American Murder.  90s film w/Christopher Walken.  I thought it was going tto be a cheeseball 80s teen comedy.  But it straddles the line between teen film and murder/mystery.  Walken is hilarious in this and so is the main character.  A lot of one liners here in the script and that is the best part of the film.  Part of me wonders if the script were written for a different darker film whether or not it would be great.  Still I enjoyed watching this and laughing a lot.  oh, this has nothing to do with the film but payphones are used a fair amount in this film and those coin operated phones are obsolete now.

#294 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 150 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

Anything is possible, I just don’t think he’s smart enough or dumb enough to do that. He’s like the Diet Coke of dumb. Not all that good either way.

He could’ve absolutely been reckless with it. Something as big as espionage would require something… I don’t know, bigger? Like they’d have to be certain he did it, and there would have to be arrests, and Garland would definitely have to know about it. It’s just strange. It started off being a Secret Service agent being concerned over improperly stored documents to selling shit to Saudi Arabia. Idk

Reading up on what he was actually charged/alleged with, I would sort of agree that it's probably not the more serious one of selling stuff to foreign government.  He got charged with chp 18, 793 which is gathering, losing, or transmitting defense information.  794 is the more serious one about aiding foreign governments and guys like Ames got charged with.

Also,  let's just put it this way, I could see him keeping the documents because he was felt he was entitled to them.

#295 Re: The Sunset Strip » RIP Olivia Newton John » 150 weeks ago

James wrote:

Yep...if you are unable to stay mainstream across a couple generations/culture shifts, you start slipping through the cracks of time.

OT but it's incredible that GNR is still semi-relevant given the basic inactivity since the early 90s.  I mean shit they managed to get multiple songs in some marvel film this year.

It's easier to rediscover music now with all the streaming options thoug.

#296 Re: The Sunset Strip » RIP Olivia Newton John » 150 weeks ago

I was too young to appreciate Olivia Newton John as I was barely alive or old when Grease yet.  And when one of these people dies, a small part of you or your childhood dies as well.  At least they live on in our memories, or whatever songs or movies that they are in.

#297 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 150 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

I’m not saying the search was invalid. I have no idea. But you’re suggesting Trump was going to sell classified information. That is an outrageous claim not based on any evidence. My point was that despite objective evidence of the FBI acting inappropriately, you’re choosing to dismiss any possibility this might be improper, and go a step further by suggesting Trump did this to sell classified information.

You don’t see how outrageous, partisan and conspiracy theory drivel such a claim is?

Ok, I'll own up to that part, speculating about Trump. 

I generally dismiss the part about the FBI acting inappropriately/screwing up because generally speaking I have to tendency to believe in the competence of people and in this case, organizations.  It has probably happened a few times in the past, but in this case where there is history being made, I tend to think that they must have some hard solid evidence/justification for this.  Because this is generally not done.

LOL, there's no way that Garland didn't know this at all.  That's a bad excuse.  Not even I can buy that.

#298 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 150 weeks ago

Complain all you want about some conspiracy or left wing bullshit you want.  The fact is that no other president has been hit with this Republican or Democrat, ever.

The Justice Department official who oversaw the investigation of Hillary Clinton’s handling of classified records says there’s simply no comparing the search of Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence to the case against the former secretary of State.

“People sling these cases around to suit their political agenda but every case has to stand on its own circumstances,” said David Laufman, who led the Justice Department’s counterintelligence section until 2018 and is now a partner at the firm Wiggin and Dana.

Laufman has the credentials to judge the severity of these matters. In addition to the Clinton case, he managed the investigation of David Petraeus, the former general and CIA director who pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor for mishandling classified material. CNN reported that one of the DOJ officials involved in the Trump investigation is his immediate successor.

“For the department to pursue a search warrant at Mar-a-Lago tells me that the quantum and quality of the evidence they were reciting — in a search warrant and affidavit that an FBI agent swore to — was likely so pulverizing in its force as to eviscerate any notion that the search warrant and this investigation is politically motivated,” he said.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/0 … s-00050691

I do think they should reveal what the search warrant was for.

#300 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 150 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

True.

I just think it plays into his hands. It’s better yo have a long drawn out fight that no one cares about. It just seems there’s a push to get him convicted of something so he can’t run again.


I kinda hate this aspect of modern politicizing of the investigate arm of the Justice Dept.  I think that is the right term.  And it's been going on for years.  There could be (and probably most of them are) a legitimate investigation of some wrongdoing and it's gets drowned out by "it's a witch hunt" or defund the FBI or whatever bullshit gets thrown it.

And it's wrong to me.  Because generally the FBI doesn't fuck around when it comes to stuff like it.

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