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#21 Re: 2008 » 2008: Chinese Whispers » 859 weeks ago
Peppers Ghost
As Chinese Democracy did come out, Dr Pepper was to make good of their promise.
"According to WalletPop.com, Dr Pepper's web site appears to be having a hard time keeping up with demand for a soda following the soft drink manufacturer's announcement earlier in the year that it would give a free drink to everyone if GUNS N' ROSES' long-awaited new album, "Chinese Democracy", album actually dropped in 2008.
Interested fans are being asked to visit DrPepper.com today (November 23), the day "Chinese Democracy" is released in the U.S. exclusively via Best Buy. After registering online, fans will receive a coupon redeemable for a 20-oz. Dr Pepper wherever the drink is sold.
The twist: the coupon is only available for 24 hours and will expire on February 28.
Repeated attempts by WalletPop.com staff to reach DrPepper.com have resulted mainly in a longtime "loading" message on the main page. When WalletPop.com has managed to get in, the coupon location wasn't immediately clear. It's apparently behind "Promotions" and then "Free Dr Pepper" — but then that page wasn't loading for WalletPop.com either.
Then WalletPop.com tried 1-888-drpepper (1-888-377-3773), as recommended to the site by a company spokesman. WalletPop.com called midday and got an operator after a 15-minute wait. The spokesman also said the company was working to add more servers to handle the web traffic — this also around noon, 12 hours into the 24-hour promotion." (Blabbermouth, 11/23/08)
The band were quick to jump on the bandwagon.
"Guns N' Roses' and Axl Rose's lawyer has castigated Dr Pepper, accusing the soda maker of failing to deliver on its "Chinese Democracy" (Black Frog/Geffen) free soda promotion, which the band was never involved in.
[Beverly Hills-based Alan Gutman]'s letter makes clear his view that the original campaign was an 'exploitation of my clients' legendary reputation and their eagerly awaited album' and 'brazenly violated our clients' rights.' He is also seeking an 'appropriate payment... for the unauthorized use and abuse of their publicity and intellectual property rights,' with the threat of further action if an acceptable offer is not made. 'Now is the time to clean up the mess,' says Gutman." (Billboard, 11/26/08)
"Bosses at soft drinks giant Dr Pepper have refused to apologise to Guns N' Roses for the debacle over their recent giveaway with the rockers' new album Chinese Democracy. [...] A statement from Dr Pepper reads, 'We are disappointed that GN'R's lawyers are turning a fun giveaway into a legal dispute. We simply commented on the delayed release of Chinese Democracy and openly encouraged the band to release it before the end of the year.'" (Yahoo, 12/03/08)
In a long series of good intentions gone bad during the making of the album, the closing note would be a legal battle with a soft drink company. Who would've guessed?
#22 Re: 2008 » 2008: Chinese Whispers » 859 weeks ago
11/23/08
"Chinese Democracy has finally arrived. One of the most highly anticipated albums in rock history, Chinese Democracy will be in stores this Sunday, November 23rd. Guns N' Roses is ready to rock once again. Chinese Democracy (Black Frog/Geffen Records) will be available on CD and vinyl (accompanied by a free digital download of the tracks) at Best Buy and Best Buy.com in the U.S., and digitally through iTunes." (Black Frog/Geffen Records, Press release, 11/22/08)
The album debuted at number 3 at the Billboard 200 chart on December 2nd, having sold 261,000 copies on the first week of release. It did, however, top the global sales with a result of 640,000 copies.
"Many are expressing surprise that Guns N’ Roses’ Chinese Democracy sold only 255k in its first week as a Best Buy exclusive. [...] IGA and Best Buy were handicapped on a number of levels, due in large part to Rose’s refusal to participate in the setup—dramatically reducing the ability of the label and Best Buy to market the release." (Hits DailyDouble, 12/04/08)
"With our team we were able to negotiate through a mountain of issues to be able to release the album. Within those negotiations, I believed I had secured agreements, commitments and assurances that would have allowed a promotional strategy to be implemented that obviously I've had a fair amount of time to consider." (Axl, MyGNR, 12/12/08)
"Bosses at label Geffen are blaming unpredictable Axl for the disappointing sales after he went AWOL for two months before the release date." (The Sun, 12/02/11)
"Once the record was closer to release, the biz went about things in their standard business as usual mode." (Axl, MyGNR, 12/12/08)
"According to a marketing executive familiar with the deal, this minimalist-seeming strategy was all that was arranged up front: 'They're kinda just doing what they can do with what they've got. The only thing [Guns N' Roses] had to deliver was a video and the record.'" (Nashville Scene, 01/29/09)
"Rose submitted to no TV or press interviews, nor did he choose take his band on the road behind the release, while no official video has yet surfaced." (Hits DailyDouble, 12/04/08)
"There will be proper interviews and some are already scheduled for much later intentionally." (Axl, Chinesedemocracy.com, 12/14/08)
"Some are asking whether Best Buy had sufficient time to do its own setup, given the fact that Rose didn’t approve the final artwork until a few weeks prior to the release date." (Hits DailyDouble, 12/04/08)
"The stupid thing was, it was pulled out of [Axl's] hands. He was already ready to give it up, but there were a few minor things that meant a lot to him artistically, but they pulled it out of his hands anyway. What was another couple fucking weeks waiting for the artwork? I mean really? That's what it came down to. That's just too bad." (Tommy, Phoenix New Times, 12/16/11)
"In fact, [Geffen] failed to make contact with [Axl] from the day he delivered the final cut." (The Sun, 12/02/11)
Axl had vanished on the eve of his victory.
#23 Re: 2008 » 2008: Chinese Whispers » 859 weeks ago
Pro(to)motion
As the release date crept closer, the amount of stateside promotion was put into question.
"'The release of Chinese Democracy marks a historic moment in rock n’ roll,' said co-managers Irving Azoff and Andy Gould. 'We’re launching with a monumental campaign developed by Gary Arnold and the Best Buy team that matches the groundbreaking sound of the album itself.'" (Best Buy, Press Release, 10/22/08)
"The new Guns N' Roses album, "Chinese Democracy", has been streamed nearly two million times on the band's official MySpace page since it was first uploaded early this morning (Thursday, November 20). The stream will be available until the LP is released on Sunday, November 23." (Guns N' Roses, MySpace, 11/20/08)
"Thus far, Best Buy has run a relatively restrained marketing campaign for “Chinese Democracy.” Just a few days before its release, there were no signs announcing the album inside the West Hollywood location (there was a sign outside the store). The album is now up for streaming on MySpace, but not playing into the hype was the design, says Arnold. 'It all starts this weekend,' Arnold says. 'We're trying to time everything for the grand release this Sunday. There wasn’t a giant buildup, in terms of over-promising. We wanted the music to stand on its own.'" (LA Times, 11/20/08)
All n' all, pre-release promotion was scant, aside some thirty-second advertising clips, consisting of text, album artwork and a brief sound clip from one of the songs. Stateside listening parties were held in nine cities, in between November 17th and 20th. On November 23rd, the album was featured as the official soundtrack of the 2008 Grey Cup, the Canadian equivalent to SuperBowl.
#24 Re: 2008 » 2008: Chinese Whispers » 859 weeks ago
The Master Arrives
As the Best Buy deal was signed, the final mixes were taken to Gateway Mastering in Portland, Maine, where they were put into the established hands of audio engineer Bob Ludwig.
"In October, when I first heard some of final mixes which were incredibly multi-layered and dense, I was surprised by two things: The mixes were so finally honed that doing the smallest move sounded like I had done a lot and also that adding the typical amount of compression used in mastering these days took the life and musicality out of the recordings in a big way.
The trial disc I submitted to the producers had 3 versions: The one I personally liked had no compression that was used just for loudness, only compression that was needed for great sounding rock and roll.
Then, knowing how competitive everything is these days, I made two more masterings, one with more compression and another with yet more compression, but even the loudest one wasn’t remotely as loud as some recent CDs.
Hoping that at least one of these would satisfy Axl and Caram Costanzo, the co-producers of the record, I was floored when I heard they decided to go with my full dynamics version and the loudness-for-loudness-sake versions be damned." (Bob Ludwig, Gateway Mastering, 11/25/08)
#25 Re: 2008 » 2008: Chinese Whispers » 859 weeks ago
Out for Cover
The mythical bicycle album art, previewed by Axl in 2002.
"BestBuy.com is currently taking pre-orders for the long-awaited Guns N' Roses album "Chinese Democracy" at this location. According to the site, the album will be released on November 25 and will be made available on CD and vinyl format. Furthermore, fans have a choice between three different CD and LP covers, although exact details have not yet been revealed." (Blabbermouth, 10/15/08)
The third cover may possibly be the 'Sorry' automatic rifle, another visual design mentioned by Axl.
"There are two more covers/bk cover combos and the real booklet, that is all artwork, that will be out shortly in some form. It's been an ugly battle that hasn't made any sense to anyone, and whether anyone cares about such things, the booklet or artwork has always been something I've been passionate about." (Axl, HTGTH, 12/12/08)
The additional covers never reached wholesale. Axl himself commented the matter later on.
"To release the album with unapproved and unseen final artwork with a first work-only error-filled draft, when others, more recent, were readily available still has not been explained, but is finally getting cleared up. My fave is the 'How Are You' grenade cover." (Axl, HTGTH, 12/12/08)
"According to industry scuttlebutt, the negotiations for the Best Buy deal were frantic and down to the wire. 'These guys didn't have finished music until a month before,' says one source. 'It was insane. In all honesty, Axl was working on everything - the art, everything - right to the end.'" (Nashville Scene, 01/29/09)
"Atlas Shrugged, I was going to tell a little story about that song. Right now on my laptop, I actually have the old guitar solo that I played for that song, when, two days before the album was going to be mastered, I was like, let's see if we can squeeze it on to the album. I busted out some guitar tracks for it, I have my own studio...
But, because the CD could only be 74 minutes max, and it would've taken it past the limit of what a CD can store, we couldn't put Atlas Shrugged on Chinese Democracy. It wasn't worth making a two-CD album with just one song on the other CD, so hopefully, on ChiDem 2, it'll have Atlas Shrugged on there. Interesting song." (Bumblefoot, Eat More Heat, 03/02/13)
#26 Re: 2008 » 2008: Chinese Whispers » 859 weeks ago
Such A Perfect Day
As If The World premiered over the closing credits of Body of Lies, the final release date was announced.
"Guns N' Roses' long-awaited Chinese Democracy album on Geffen/Interscope finally has a release date. The album will hit all Best Buy stores, where it is an exclusive, on the Sunday prior to Thanksgiving, Nov. 23, giving it a full seven days on sale before entering the chart on Dec. 2. Best Buy's sales week runs from Sunday through Saturday night." (Hits Daily Double, 10/08/08)
"A music video is in the works, and the band - in which Rose is the only remaining original member - is expected to tour in 2009, according to a source close to GNR." (Rolling Stone, 10/17/08)
"The title track from Guns N' Roses' new album, "Chinese Democracy," will be available to download by U.S. radio outlets at 5 a.m. ET tomorrow morning (Oct. 22). Although some album tracks leaked this summer, this is the first authorized new music from the group in nine years." (Billboard, 10/21/08)
20 months after the previously announced tentative release date, the album was finally set to come out.
#27 Re: 2008 » 2008: Chinese Whispers » 859 weeks ago
BUY Product
On September 14th, Rock Band 2 was released. The accompanying GNR track, Shackler's Revenge, was the first piece of officially released new music from the band since Oh My God. OMG was premiered at the Video Music Awards event on 09/09/99, nearly nine years prior to date to the Rock Band 2 release.
"[Shackler's Revenge on Rock Band 2] is the beginning of what is expected to be a series of announcements about Guns N' Roses, the main point being that the album will be finally released and before Christmas.
[...] By getting the album out in November, Guns N' Roses will have a chance to claw back some of the control of the distribution [in response to the recent leaks] and finally put this long overdue release in the hands of the fans." (Undercover Press, 09/13/08)
First of the announcements was the big one.
"Today at the Best Buy media holiday kickoff event in Dallas, TX, it was apparently announced that the Best Buy exclusive release was official! The deal was done within the last 48 hrs. [Andy Gould of] GNR management was on hand, they played the group three songs, Chinese Democracy, [If The World and There Was A Time.]
But management stated [If The World] would play for the credit roll in the new Di Caprio flick Body of Lies [opening wide on 10/10/08.]. The album will be released on Nov 25, only at Best Buy." (MyGNR, 09/25/08)
"Best Buy is set to be the exclusive retailer for Guns N' Roses decade-plus-in-the-making new album "Chinese Democracy" before year's end, sources close to the situation tell Billboard. Some details of the deal are still being worked out, including the release date." (Billboard, 09/26/08)
"The retailer paid $14 million for 1.6 million copies of the GUNS N' ROSES album, according to Hits." (Blabbermouth, 12/11/08)
And so, Irving Azoff succeeded in covering both major US sales for Chinese Democracy, as well as Axl's monumental studio bill - both Axl and Geffen were now set to profit.
#28 Re: 2008 » 2008: Chinese Whispers » 859 weeks ago
Exclusive Leaks
The leaks, as well as the well-publicized arrest, coincided with an apparently critical period in the album release negotiations. Apparently, Azoff had requested a competing offer from Wal-Mart, a retail chain with which he'd made a 1-year exclusive distribution deal for The Eagles' comeback album Long Road out of Eden in 2007.
"According to sources, negotiations are underway for "Chinese Democracy" to come out as an exclusive at one of the big boxes - either Wal-Mart or Best Buy. Negotiations are also ongoing to have conventional record company distribution, another source says." (Billboard, 08/15/08)
"The current intended release date for Chinese Democracy is November 25, 2008. It is Azoff's strong preference that the release be done through Best Buy and not Wal-Mart. [...] I was also told that the story was leaked by Azoff to put pressure on Best Buy to up their offer and close the deal. (Mister Saint-Laurent, 08/19/08)
"A source tells Rolling Stone that a November release date has been selected in case the [GNR] decides to put [the album] out." (Rolling Stone, 08/28/08)
"A little birdie told me the deal with Best Buy is done. All that's left to do is sign the contract." (Bob Lefsetz, 08/31/08)
"I hear that the deal with Best Buy is 99% done. The plan is for Best Buy to have an exclusive on Chinese Democracy, which will be released the Tuesday before Thanksgiving [namely, 11/25/08]." (Mack Arillo, 09/01/08)
All this a few days following the arrest of Kevin Skewrl.
#29 Re: 2008 » 2008: Chinese Whispers » 859 weeks ago
The Antiquiet Nine
A few days from the Shackler's Revenge announcement, versions of nine songs from the album were leaked.
"Nine purported 'mastered, finished' tracks from Guns N' Roses' 14-years-in-the-making album 'Chinese Democracy' were leaked online yesterday (June 18) by the Web site Antiquiet.com, prompting a quick cease-and-desist from the band's handlers and the removal of the links.
Six of the songs have already leaked in one unfinished form or another: 'Better,' 'The Blues,' the title track, 'Madagascar,' 'IRS' and 'There Was a Time.' [...] The three previously unheard songs are 'Rhiad and the Bedouins,' 'If the World' and a track whose title is unknown." (Billboard, 06/19/08)
The unknown track was later revealed to be Prostitute, a song worked on since 1993.
The leaks were outstaged only by the showmanship with which the leaker was brought in.
"The FBI busted into the California home of one Kevin “Skwerl” Cogill at 6:59 yesterday morning, hauling the blogger off to U.S. District Court over charges that the 27-year-old violated copyright laws by posting nine tracks from the catastrophically-delayed Guns ’n’ Roses album Chinese Democracy to his blog, Antiquiet, back in June." (The New York Observer, 08/28/08)
Apparently, media attention was guaranteed on the get-go.
"We weren’t going to make a big spectacle of this, since it’s obviously a pretty serious situation, but the plankton hacks over at the Los Angeles Times managed to pick up on the story and run it a highly suspicious impressive two hours after the incident went down." (Antiquiet, 08/27/08)
"'Guns N' Roses representatives have been made aware of the arrests and are leaving the matter to the authorities,' said band spokesman Larry Solters." (GunsNRoses.com, 08/27/08)
Shackler's Revenge was leaked roughly a month after the 'Antiquet Nine'.
"Basically, for us [the leaks are] devastating across the board. And when you have such a majority openly justifying their actions and throwing out nonsense such as it's not actually stealing as the original is still with whomever, it's unbelievably insane." (Axl, Chinesedemocracy.com, 12/13/08)
#30 Re: 2008 » 2008: Chinese Whispers » 859 weeks ago
Slackers Return
On July 6th, a song listing for the upcoming video game Rock Band 2 was unveiled at Kotaku.com. Among others, it featured an unreleased GNR track called Shackler's Revenge.
A faux promotional image for Shackler's Revenge.
"We really wanted to have GN'R included in RB2 and Paul DeGooyer, our music guru and all-around good guy at MTV, worked directly with the GN'R folks to make it happen. Everyone involved decided that it'd be ultra fab to have something from the mysterious 'Chinese Democracy.' And Axl himself took an interest and chose 'Shackler's Revenge.'" (Eric Brosius, IGN, 08/16/08)
A week after the song listing came out, the matter was confirmed by the band.
"Get ready for 'Shackler's Revenge.' The track from the upcoming Guns N' Roses album Chinese Democracy will appear on the video game Rock Band 2, slated for release for the Xbox 360 platform in September." (GunsNRoses.com, 07/14/08)