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#21 Guns N' Roses » American Communism - 22 remixed-remastered tracks » 840 weeks ago

chicken_dinner
Replies: 30

you all will witness a world premiere nao.

i present to this hollow pale cold world......American Communism, the remaster-remix of Chinese Democracy with a few nice extra nuggets in between.

22 remastered/remixed tracks of the RB2 no guitar rips (by CoBrA2168, cheers) and ogg files of Shackler by unknown and some of my own stuff added.


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153MB RAR file, no password, from fastest to slowest download speed (for me at least):


http://www.zshare.net/download/601728319253462b/

http://www.badongo.com/file/15003852

http://depositfiles.com/files/9tnm25vzw

http://rapidshare.de/files/47207314/Ame … m.rar.html

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=79DIVQSJ


if i disappear into a torture camp in the near future, you all should know i did it for teh lulz :3

#22 Re: GNRevolution Madness » GnREvolution Music Madness - The Finals » 840 weeks ago

i wonder which will win on a gnr forum :B

stairway is better though.

afd is overrated. none of gnrs best songs are on it :3

#23 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy/Rock Band 2 (Tracks Leaking?) » 840 weeks ago

olo, you only read the parts you want it seems ;P

the catcher solo has no flow, its off beat and the articulation is exaggerated. thats the best bumble could come up with after 400 takes. he just cant play slow properly. producers arent magicians who can fix that.

the may solo, if it was mixed exactly like the album (higher volume etc), it would still sound more in place because he knows what the song needed.

chinese democracy is a totally different song than til, (hardrock song vs slow strings ballad) so what follows it must match it. entire prostitute isnt quieter like you say, open it up in an audio software, it gradually gets louder and after the lyric "why would they tell me" its as loud as shackler. in fact the last part of the song (before the outro) is louder than shackler. cap of original CD wav files, above prostitute, below shackler:

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if you think thats all unintentional, you dont know as much as you think about this, no offense 19

as a producer you must think it is 1 whole project...if not, find another job. the fact you listeners think its 14 lil songs is your right, but has nothing to do with the job of producing an album :B

#24 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy/Rock Band 2 (Tracks Leaking?) » 840 weeks ago

you (and most people who throw in the overproducing remark) do not know what producing means in the studio while working on a project wink

i mean, in the details. the overall term producing is not the end of it all like people suggest.

example: take the outro solo of catcher you complain about (rightfully). but you use the wrong assumption again because you are talking about the volume being the problem. it does not matter how it was mixed, that solo would still sound out of place and 'in the way' because the solo itself is the problem.

it only could be mixed properly if it was replaced by a new solo that did flow well with that part of the song. take may's version...it fits right in. you could have used the same volumes for that solo as on the album mix and it would still sound proper because that guy knew what the song needed and lay it down. the other guitarist doesnt.

and there are many more examples of that. thats the main problem with CD when it comes to 'overproduction' issues.

prostitute was lower volume because TIL just ended in very low volume and it matches that when you play it right after it. thats actually good producing at work there, because you have to think of the album as 1 whole project, not 14 seperate lil songs.

#25 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy/Rock Band 2 (Tracks Leaking?) » 840 weeks ago

many people mentioned the album is 'overproduced'. thats not the issue really, because the more production, the better actually (afd is also 'overproduced', so are led zep albums etc).

the main 'error' on CD is is that at the same time, too many parts try to make a statement in the same bar which dont mesh well. meaning, you have a guitar, vocals, drums, bas and synth all doing something individually which sounds good if played seperately....but mix them together in the same time frame and they dont mingle well, scattering the effect.

listen to achilles last stand by led zep (my fav), its the opener on the album presence. there are more things going on there at the same time than any gnr song. very intricate, complicated and diverse stuff. yet....it sounds like a perfect match. nothing could be changed to make it better. its very much overproduced and thats what makes it stay together.

but all the parts fit in with each other, like a puzzle. thats why led zep was the tightest band around. all the band members intuitively knew what to play and make it sound like a perfect match.

on CD, many times parts dont fit in. the stuff the musicians do dont communicate with each others.

they heard this too in the studio. you can then try to mix it diffently...and try a bit more....you change the eq, use some effects to make it mingle...play with the volume levels nonstop... while the best would be to not include it, or change the part slightly b y rerecording another version.

so its not what you do behind the faders...its what the musicians do in front of the mics that made CD sound a bit off in production area for most. im not having a problem though, i listen through that (ignoring some parts of the musicians, yes mainly bumble big_smile) and it is very well done in the end.

#26 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy/Rock Band 2 (Tracks Leaking?) » 840 weeks ago

cheers for the comments.

i have to go now in a hurry so uploading the already finished 22 tracks will be tomorrow then. i said tentatively so im safe :3

American Communism starts tomorrow.....

#27 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy/Rock Band 2 (Tracks Leaking?) » 840 weeks ago

axlgod wrote:

chicken_dinner, i'm liking these remixes - excellent work.

how about an original maddy with just the bucket solo (no samples).

again, i dont have an xbox but cobra had ripped that version, with solo no samples but it was very low quality. i will see what i can do wif eet nao. this will take 2 hours more guise :3

#28 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy/Rock Band 2 (Tracks Leaking?) » 840 weeks ago

i have 2 very nice suprises in it now, i think i pulled it off D:

on one hand i have to think many dont have expensive systems, so grade the dynamics down a bit, but feck it mang 19

i will go over them 1 more time, then upload eet. sooner than the better video, tentatively :3

#29 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy/Rock Band 2 (Tracks Leaking?) » 840 weeks ago

20 tracks, remastered/remixed stuff of RB2 no guitar. youve heard a portion of it in the last posts so its not earth shattering news, but still sounded cooler if i posted it that way :3

#30 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy/Rock Band 2 (Tracks Leaking?) » 840 weeks ago

soon, you will all witness a grande premiere huur.

:3

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