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#2631 Re: Guns N' Roses » Robin back in NIN. Temp or not is the question? » 899 weeks ago
I don't blame the guy for wanting to get out and play and do some stuff. He can't put his life on hold for ever.
Good on him I say.
But it certainly doesn't make things look good for release of CD any time soon!!
#2632 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » On the search for a new frontman: » 899 weeks ago
I think Bach's voice would be great for the ballad style of tracks but his sound would be very dated on the heavier tracks. He just reminds me of 80's hair metal when I hear him try and scream some of the songs. Granted a song like Love is a Bitch Slap to me didn't sound too dated and I quite like that song as well as a couple of others. However, I think lots of other factors such as his antics, his hyperactivity, his big mouth and his wardrobe should remain in the 80's.
I don't think Bach brings anywhere near enough to the table for VR. They need more of a ballys rocking sound - more Sliver type of songs. But for me Bach doesn't bring the right sound to heavy songs - his sound is too dated.
I just hope that despite my suspicions, the VR guys aren't seriously thinking of going with him. Whilst it would probably work out ok, I just feel that once again they won't reach their full potential. Mind you it would make for quite an interesting situation if he did get the gig - I would love to be a fly on the wall when Bach tries to tell his boyfriend Axl that he was working with the enemy.
#2633 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » On the search for a new frontman: » 899 weeks ago
Neemo wrote:well even though i dont want to beleive it....my head says that Baz will be the next singer...all the peices do seeem to fit...i'm definately intrigued as to who will be the guy who stepps in...i bet we wont have to wait long to find out
Hey - just on that thought perhaps that is the phone call that Baz got last month just before he did that radio interview.
You may recall the one where he kept going "Fuck man" "I just had a phone call that is gonna change my life" etc etc.
I've just been thinking about this some more. Bach got that phone call just before his SmartAss radio interview on the 5th March. The first UK tour date I believe was the 15th March.
Then Slash in that recent Rolling Stone interview says the following:
"We actually worked with a guy, I won't mention his name, before we left to go to the UK and there just wasn't enough to break him in, so we're gonna work with him again some more, and maybe some other guys as well"
It's quite plausible that they tested Baz out on how he goes singing the existing catalogue of VR songs. That short timeframe between the phone call Baz got and VR being in the UK fits.
#2634 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » On the search for a new frontman: » 899 weeks ago
Aussie wrote:Unless the existing VR guys are willing to work harder on writing good material and set a higher standard for themselves than last time, I don't see a major change to the end result. Perhaps whichever vocalist they select can inject something into the songwriting department, although unless that vocalist is someone like Izzy Stradlin with his songwriting abilities I seriouslydoubt it. Particularly if they go for a no name person then they will probably be unlikely to stand up and tell the rest of the band that the material is shit and needs more work.
I actually enjoyed Libertad more than most people seemed to, but I completely agree with this.
When a guy like Rick Rubin tells you that you need to put more into your songwriting you HAVE to listen to him, and not be afraid to do the work. They will especially need to do that now.
True the music isn't horrible, I still play the CD and there a few songs I quite like on there. It just leaves you with the feeling that's it's not quite there, there is something missing or it just needed a bit more work.
As you correctly say - they should have listened to Rick Rubin and perhaps he could have pushed it just that little bit more that it needed to be a really strong album.
#2635 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » On the search for a new frontman: » 899 weeks ago
well even though i dont want to beleive it....my head says that Baz will be the next singer...all the peices do seeem to fit...i'm definately intrigued as to who will be the guy who stepps in...i bet we wont have to wait long to find out
Hey - just on that thought perhaps that is the phone call that Baz got last month just before he did that radio interview.
You may recall the one where he kept going "Fuck man" "I just had a phone call that is gonna change my life" etc etc.
#2636 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » On the search for a new frontman: » 899 weeks ago
I have to say I am struggling to get excited about a new VR singer. A large part of me feels like they should just put VR to bed and leave it be.
Sure I love hearing Slash play and new music from them etc etc, but I just think it's over and time to move on. To what I don't know - Slash his solo album probably.
All I can think is that this is a way for them to deliver a 3rd album (assuming that's what the original contract was). If the new singer miraculously works out and more importantly they can write enough decent material then we may get another album after that. But right now I feel like it's probably gonna be another lukewarm album then that will be it. If that's the case I would rather they move on now.
Unless the existing VR guys are willing to work harder on writing good material and set a higher standard for themselves than last time, I don't see a major change to the end result. Perhaps whichever vocalist they select can inject something into the songwriting department, although unless that vocalist is someone like Izzy Stradlin with his songwriting abilities I seriouslydoubt it. Particularly if they go for a no name person then they will probably be unlikely to stand up and tell the rest of the band that the material is shit and needs more work.
#2637 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Velvet Revolver "fires" Scott Weiland » 899 weeks ago
I didn't know you could fire someone after they have already left?
#2638 Re: The Garden » Funny Suburb Names » 899 weeks ago
That's just too funny Backlash! I'm surprised that the town hasn't tried to get together to change the name.
You could set up a pretty funny souveniour shop there.
#2639 Re: The Garden » Funny Suburb Names » 899 weeks ago
I don't have alot going on out here in Michigan. I DO have this though:
http://boortz.com/images/big_beaver_road.jpg
This is a pic I found of my actual exit for work. I take I-75 to exit 69, Big Beaver each and everyday I work. So... yes.... I get off on Big Beaver everyday.
Great photos Russtcb - I conveniently noticed in this pic that Big Beaver is on "Exit 69" too.
#2640 Re: Guns N' Roses » DR. PEPPER ISSUES CHALLENGE TO AXL ROSE! » 900 weeks ago
Backslash wrote:About the legal implications...
In my business law class this term, we studied a case whereby a lady released a baby-care ad for public promotion. The video featured toys but she did not have the permission of the toy company. The company caught wind of it and successfully sued her. The company successfully argued that they did not endorse her product and therefore felt that the lady misrepresented herself as affiliated with the company.
I don't see how this case would be argued differently. Sure, a different decision would probably be met, but Axl could at least get this case brought to court... If not now, then when the promotion is actually released. Although it's possible that Dr Pepper's marketing team would develop this strategy without contacting anyone in the GNR camp, it's unlikely that they would. Especially if they have a competent legal team. It's far more likely that they contacted all parties involved before investing anything into the campaign. Otherwise, the promotion would be a potential disaster. Think about it. Even though Dr Pepper has the promotion worded as a challenge to GNR and they would probably be able to successfully argue that this doesn't harm GNR or the label or anything else in a court of law, there would be legal costs on top of everything else in order to fight it. It's far more logical to assume that the company would contact everyone involved prior to releasing the ad campaign to avoid such costs. Moreover, those who argue that the campaign hasn't been officially released yet so GNR probably didn't know beforehand, well, if the company waited until the last minute to get permission from the band and label and didn't receive approval, all of a sudden they're out the millions they've invested into the campaign. Corporate marketing and legal teams aren't stupid.
For the record, I'm not saying Axl's lying... it's all part of the promotion. It's a game. Dr Pepper challenges and Axl Rose remains mysterious and accepts the challenge without ever saying the album will definitely come out in 2008. It's creating a buzz.
You are absolutely right. Dr Pepper would have had to contact GNR's legal teams to use the names GNR, Axl and Chinese Democracy. This would have had to be planned out so they didn't risk a lawsuit. With a company as big as Dr Pepper, there is no way their marketting teams would be so dumb as to leave any risk of a lawsuit when they know who they are dealing with.
Well if that's the case then the overly cautious legal team of Dr Pepper's must have also contacted Buckethead and Slash to use their names as well. I mean if you need permission to use Axl's name then surely you need Slash and BH's too. I mean you would really have to get their permission more so than anyone elses since the marketing campaing makes them look like dicks and clearly discriminates against them. Obviously this legal team contacted them and they said sure go ahead and use our name to make fun of us where do I sign to consent to this?
I mean lets be honest Dr Pepper and their team of legal eagles along with the marketing team wouldn't be so dumb as to risk a lawsuit from these guys. So even though BH and Slash will probably deny it, it stands to reason that they have also been in on this campagin since the beginning.