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#211 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Slash playing with Kings of Chaos + VR news » 633 weeks ago
Son of a Gun wrote:metallex78 wrote:That doesn't seem to make any sense since Skid Row's albums have went down hill since Sebastian left, and Sebastian's solo stuff has been pretty damn good.
So clearly, Sebastian's input is more valuable than you think.How comes that he has only 10 co wriitng credits on 3 albums ? that `s not "valuable contrubition " .
It'd be the first time in the history of rock that someone's undercredited!
Anyway, since VR have a full album without vocals and Baz is one of my all time favourites, I'd love them completing those songs. Slash could still use his new ideas for his Myles project.
Yes, Baz can scream his lungs off give you that.
#212 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Slash playing with Kings of Chaos + VR news » 633 weeks ago
Son of a Gun wrote:RaZor wrote:I was referring to Baz in that post, he's an 80's vocalist who's work with Skid Row was very similar to Axl in GNR.
Baz`s " work" was n`t similar to Axl`s, Axman had huge input in Guns`s music unlike Baz, who just added his vocals to whatever Snake and Scott Hill handed him. He doesn`t have writing chops.
That doesn't seem to make any sense since Skid Row's albums have went down hill since Sebastian left, and Sebastian's solo stuff has been pretty damn good.
So clearly, Sebastian's input is more valuable than you think.
How comes that he has only 10 co wriitng credits on 3 albums ? that `s not "valuable contribution " .
#213 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Slash playing with Kings of Chaos + VR news » 633 weeks ago
Actually I thought they went to a great effort to NOT be like GNR...including refusing to hire anyone who sang a GNR song as a demo tape, refusing baz cos he sounded like 80s skid row, dropping most of the guitar solos, purposely picking a 90s style grungy singer not an 80s type high pitch vocalist, slash not wearing his hat, and the general disavowal of any GNR related stuff except for ISE and Brownstone as covers.
That's kinda my point. VR was like it was because slash was playing AGAINST his normal way to try and be modern and not like his normal 70s rock influenced stuff.
it's also worth noting that it hardly fell flat on it's face, they got grammy awards and a bunch of recognition and the media identified with them as a modern and new distinct entity of a supergroup from STp/GNR folks.
I personally really like Axl and respect his music, but if you look at the average punter, they see bizarre style changes, patchy performances, almost no albums, continued late starts and drama and replacing the whole band with people who never get a shot at legitimising their presence with a studio release, and it's done what it does. He's the michael jackson of rock now. Everyone knows he's talented, but he's also considered nuts and or a jerk of the worst kind.
Velvet Revolver was a typical supergroup they had 5 minutes of attention because of Slash, Duff and Scott they went nowhere Audioslave was much better.
#214 Re: The Garden » Rival Sons » 633 weeks ago
Awesome band they`re highly influenced by Led Zeppelin.
#215 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Slash playing with Kings of Chaos + VR news » 633 weeks ago
Son of a Gun wrote:RaZor wrote:Add Gibby and a vocalist so similar to Axl to VR, and GNR's authenticity problem gets worse. Which could be pretty cool for fans if a rivalry between the two would motivate them to put out more material. We could end up with two awesome bands.
Big obstacle, there are no vocalists like Axl.
I was referring to Baz in that post, he's an 80's vocalist who's work with Skid Row was very similar to Axl in GNR.
Baz`s " work" was n`t similar to Axl`s, Axman had huge input in Guns`s music unlike Baz, who just added his vocals to whatever Snake and Scott Hill handed him. He doesn`t have writing chops.
#216 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Slash playing with Kings of Chaos + VR news » 633 weeks ago
I like them both.
Just saying Slash likes to play a couple of hundred shows a year, record a new album every 2 or so years, and play a variety of tunes from the whole of his back catalogue.
Aside from Axl's solemn oath to die before playing with Slash again, I notice new GNR played about as many shows in 10 years as Slash does in one, that they only add a song to the setlist about once every 3-4 years, and that in 20 years we've had 1 album.
Something tells me as kickass as Axl is as a songwriter, he's not the man to front VR
Yes, you`re right Axl will never ever front generic uninspired Rock band like Velvet Revolver. Contraband was decent that`s it. It was patheitc attempt at resurecting Guns N`Rosse without Axl but they failed, they fell flat on their faces because there`s no Guns N`Roses without Axl even name Velvet Revolver reeked of desperate desire to bring back GNR.
#217 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Slash playing with Kings of Chaos + VR news » 633 weeks ago
^ Only singer around currently able to sing ANY song in GNR's back catalogue....including Axl.
I`ll take current Axl over MK any day of the week.
#218 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Slash playing with Kings of Chaos + VR news » 633 weeks ago
monkeychow wrote:Yeah actually it shows you the draw that could have huh.
Like now you mention it - they could do Skid Row and GNR hits - that's a huge draw to most people - then they add in the VR tunes.
VR was always keen to establish itself as more modern than GNR - but I always thought if they just did a straight GNR cover show with someone like Baz or Myles they'd be giving modern GNR a run for it's money in the "which band is GNR" stakes.
Add Gibby and a vocalist so similar to Axl to VR, and GNR's authenticity problem gets worse. Which could be pretty cool for fans if a rivalry between the two would motivate them to put out more material. We could end up with two awesome bands.
Big obstacle, there are no vocalists like Axl.
#219 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Slash playing with Kings of Chaos + VR news » 633 weeks ago
Yeah actually it shows you the draw that could have huh.
Like now you mention it - they could do Skid Row and GNR hits - that's a huge draw to most people - then they add in the VR tunes.
VR was always keen to establish itself as more modern than GNR - but I always thought if they just did a straight GNR cover show with someone like Baz or Myles they'd be giving modern GNR a run for it's money in the "which band is GNR" stakes.
Myles Kennedy butchering GNR`s material with nasal vocals ? I`ll pass.
#220 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Slash playing with Kings of Chaos + VR news » 633 weeks ago
Axl powns Izzy in terms of lyrics and melodies. Izzy is overappriciated and is given too much credit he laid foundation but others especially Axl and Slash built on his simple riffs and made those songs sound great. For me Axl always was the best writer in the band. Dust N`Bonse, Double Talkin`Jive and 14 Years are awesome songs but they can`t touch One In A Milion, November Rain, Dead Horse, Coma, Civil War, Breakdown, Locomotive, Better, There Was A Time, Catcer in the Rye etc.
