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#2011 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rumor: Axl and Slash at same hotel in NYC? » 908 weeks ago
It is not a reunion if you do some form of half ass mix of uyi gnr, new gnr, vr. That would be awful.:sick:
As I've said, it is as far as the wider ticket-buying public are concerned - and they're the people whose opinions count. As long as Axl's up there with Slash, most people will consider it a GN'R reunion - in the same way that they considered the UYI-era band GN'R, even though Izzy and Steven had both been replaced. Duff's also reasonably essential (as part of that UYI-era band). As an "additional musician" on the UYI tour, Matt's ultimately disposable, but likely to come as part of a package with Slash and Duff. Adler is... unlikely, to put it mildly.
That leaves the rhythm guitarist spot. In an ideal world, it'd be Izzy, but we already know he prefers "dropping in" for guest spots to a full-on tour. Slash might simply insist that "Axl joins Velvet Revolver", and that Dave comes along. Gilby is pretty unlikely, having not had contact with either camp for a decade. I imagine/hope that we'd get Fortus, and if there was an album to follow, Izzy would stick around as a songwriter and contribute to the album.
Yes, it'd be lovely to see the AFD-era GN'R reunite (of course, they're not the original GN'R...), but I think we have to accept that if a reunion happens, it won't be that line-up touring. If you're realistic about it, you're less likely to be disappointed.
#2012 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rumor: Axl and Slash at same hotel in NYC? » 908 weeks ago
It isn't a reunion without Izzy. End of discussion. Izzy is and has always been the go between. For fuck's sake, he went on a European tour with Axl within the last few years. He started his first bands with Axl. He went to High School with Axl. He still plays with Duff and Slash on various occasions. He showed up for the AFD 20th. He would clearly do a reunion tour if it is done properly.:thumbup:
Yeah, but by the same token, we had the guys on the 2006 tour saying that he enjoys that setup - dropping in occasionally, but not being obligated to make an appearance. I don't doubt that he'd tour if it was the right setup, but I couldn't imagine it being a going concern. After all, "Izzy is Izzy."
Plus I'd gnaw off my own arm to see Fortus and Slash sharing a stage. 
#2013 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rumor: Axl and Slash at same hotel in NYC? » 908 weeks ago
Yeah... on the three guitarists thing, it struck me that a Fortus/Slash/Kushner line-up might work. Neither of them is in any danger of overshadowing Slash, but Fortus could do all the shredding and Kushner could make the weird experimental noises. And it'd maintain the VR/GN'R balance in the band.
I dunno, I guess I just think Bumblefoot doesn't quite fit as Fortus in a classic-style GN'R. I love the guy - Normal's one of my favourite records - but he doesn't quite have the right vibe.
#2014 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rumor: Axl and Slash at same hotel in NYC? » 908 weeks ago
See, I'd argue that Fortus is capable of playing the Buckethead/Bumblefoot shred parts.
#2015 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rumor: Axl and Slash at same hotel in NYC? » 908 weeks ago
I mentioned over on Chinesedemocracy.com the interesting point that you only really need Slash and Axl up there to bill it as a "reunion". Most rock bands have two iconic members - usually the singer and lead guitarist (but not always; for the Chilis it's Flea and Kiedis). The other members can be replaced, but the Stones wouldn't be the Stones without Mick and Keef, Queen isn't Queen without Freddie and Brian, Oasis can still get away with calling themselves Oasis as long as Liam and Noel are there... and GN'R is, in the eyes of the general public, Axl and Slash. Which is ironic, since Izzy was arguably more important to the band than Slash.
I don't think Slash would be willing to simply replace Finck; his ego wouldn't let him step back while Bumblefoot played the November Rain outro, for instance. He wouldn't want to be a mere "employee" of Axl, so he'd want Duff to come along at least.
Axl, for his part, wouldn't want to deal with a united front of the former members of VR, so would want some of his people along to maintain the balance of power within the band. Thinking about it logically...
Duff and Slash join Axl. Izzy declines to get involved in a tour, but agrees to take on songwriting duties on the album, and guests on tour (Slash said, IIRC, that Scott was the major stumbling block to using Izzy's material for Velvet Revolver). Fortus stays on board - he knows the songs, none of his solos would encroach on Slash's, and he has fantastic stage presence. Possibly, Fortus's old mucker Frank stays on board (or Matt comes with Duff and Slash). Dizzy (and Pit(t)man?) stick around on keyboards.
#2016 Re: Guns N' Roses » So who on here would go to a GNR reunion? » 908 weeks ago
I'd definitely go. x10 if Fortus was up there with Slash. I've said elsewhere why that's not too unlikely (Izzy doesn't like touring, Axl would want some of his people there so that Slash/Matt/Duff couldn't present a united front against him, Fortus already knows the songs, unlike Dave).
#2017 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rumor: Axl and Slash at same hotel in NYC? » 908 weeks ago
If Slash were to come back... they'd have to re-record Chinese Democracy. Again. FFS.
#2018 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tommy/Westerberg consider a Replacements reunion » 908 weeks ago
James Lofton wrote:elevendayempire wrote:Okay, if Tommy's out then the cards are really on the table for a reunion.
The cards have been on the table since the second Weiland walked out the door.
We're probably much closer to one happening then people realize.
my fantasy of seeing Slash and Fortus sharing a stage.
That will never happen. We'll never see a CD era member onstage with a reunited old lineup. There's no reason for it. The moment Axl screams and Slash starts playing Jungle, to paraphrase Amon Goeth in Schindler's List, "the past 12 years become nothing more than a rumor".
except for maybe the drummer
in the case of a reunion, i see axl keeping frank or brain over bringing matt back. but maybe it's wishful thinking.
I would expect Axl to keep at least a couple of "his people" on board; he doesn't want to be on his own dealing with a united front of Slash/Duff/Matt. Izzy doesn't like touring and the band would need a rhythm guitarist; with that in mind, I'd expect Axl to keep Fortus on board (he knows all the GN'R rhythm parts - which is more than Kushner does - he's one of Axl's crowd, and he even looks like Izzy, for heaven's sake). There isn't a hope in hell of Adler coming back, and I dunno if Axl would want to deal with Matt, so there might even be an opening for Frank there (since he's pretty tight with Fortus).
It wouldn't be ideal - I'd far rather see Axl touring with the current band (or, better yet, Buckethead), but if there was a reunion of sorts, I'd be happy enough with a Fortus/Frank/Axl/Slash/Duff/Dizzy line-up (with Izzy turning up for occasional guest appearances and songwriting duties on the album).
#2019 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tommy/Westerberg consider a Replacements reunion » 908 weeks ago
Okay, if Tommy's out then the cards are really on the table for a reunion. Slash wouldn't join up without Duff - he'd want someone from his own camp on-side. But if Tommy's in GN'R, there's no place for Duff. If Tommy quits, then the reunion suddenly becomes far more likely. And so does my fantasy of seeing Slash and Fortus sharing a stage. 
#2020 Re: Guns N' Roses » My Current Theory » 909 weeks ago
Just a thought - the original piece about the reality TV show said that GN'R would promote the release with a limited number of live engagements. If they're only doing a couple of live dates, Robin would easily be able to cover both them and NIN.
