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#11 Guns N' Roses » Bad Apples was meant to be on Live Era » 10 weeks ago
- Shacklermyrye
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Was looking in to the archive to check something unrelated and stumbled on this so thought I'd mention it as I'm not sure it's common knowledge or not.
Bad Apples was intended to be on Live Era and a mixed version by Andy Wallace likely exists
Wallace's management company confirms that the studio veteran is booked for the sessions from July 12 through to the 29th.
https://web.archive.org/web/20010629194 … _news.html The following post suggests his work however was not complete by the 29th.
August 8th 1999
The Guns N' Roses Live Album Info
Slash says the album will have to meet the approval of the GN'R members before it's ready for production. He is working on mixing it, and sometimes Duff will come in and help out. Every one of the band members is involved in some way. Slash says that 8 songs are done. The artwork is already in progress and will be done by the band. The album will be made up of songs from different concerts. There will be some GN'R standbys like "Welcome to the Jungle", but there will also be rare cuts like "Bad Apples". "November Rain" and "Estranged" are both included. Actually, Slash said there was way too much material for one CD, so they are constantly working to size down the tracks to be included. Still no date, but Slash says they are half done, and 24 songs are in mid-mix. So obviously, the band has got a ways to go to compressing this down to the cd-size 13-15. Slash will be going very briefly to New York to master this Guns album.
Source: GN'R mailinglist https://web.archive.org/web/20010702103 … news5.html
A rare live version of the song "Bad Apples," originally thought to be on record, did not make the final cut, but at least one other track, "Coma," is expected to surface as an overseas b-side in the future. https://web.archive.org/web/20010707161 … tory1.html
As you may recall Coma was eventually released as a bonus track in Japan, but also made available as a free download through KNACs site.
There are 22 songs on the album, 23 if you count Coma, the 24th has to be Bad Apples. So any of you have this?
The following is Duff basically admitting that there are overdubs, I stumbled on this a few years ago and its the closest I have seen any of them come to admitting it.
This was posted on Duff McKagan's Message Board:
Hey dudes! Yes, the live album is offically released on the 30th November here in the US. I did work quite a bit on it. It was great becasue I got to meet all the guys again. Slash was responsible for most of the work on the album. He and Axl worked the hardest. Stevie, Izzy and the others were all involved in one way or another. A lot of people who habe heard the Live Era sampler are complaining that it sound too overproduced with extra sound added. Hmm. It is true that we added extra sound to make the songs sound better on record. But I would not call it 'overproduced'. It has ended up with a very smooth, clean sound even to Axl's vocals but we were just trying to make the album as good as we could. That is why it doesn't actually say what shows the songs come from on the album. Loads of bands do it. Checkout Aerosmith's 'A Little South of Sanity', Cheap Trick's 'Live At Budokan' or any Kiss live album and they have all been tampered with. Otherwise, it would sound like a bootleg.
Se ya, November 30th, in your living room.
Source: Duff McKagan's Official Website
http://home5.swipnet.se/~w-52838/nov29_ … tory4.html
#12 Re: Guns N' Roses » NWA » 10 weeks ago
Shacklermyrye wrote:Scabbie wrote:Thanks all! Kind of reminds me of the rumoured Axl collaboration with another rapper (Shaq?). Clearly there's a gnr / hip hop album in a parallel universe somewhere waiting to come out!
I think Axl said (possibly in the forum chats) that Shaq happened to be in the next studio, Didn't sound like there was any actual plan to do and release something, think they were just messing around in the studio for a few hours, at least that's the vibe I got from reading all that stuff years ago.
There was a rumour in the early to mid 2000's that Nas was going to do something with them. Seems mostly forgotten by people now, and was probably just clickbait nonsense. i remember it being 'reported' on one of those sites that post spurious information. I remember when BITW leaked thinking that it was clearly meant to have a rapper on the verses, I would expect that it was meant to at some point.
do you have any more info on the nas thing? that's really interesting, never heard that rumor before. he's my favorite rapper, that would have been cool as fuck.
Had a look on wayback machine and couldn't find it. Did find some other interesting stuff though I'll post a thread about when I get chance
#13 Re: The Garden » If A Documentary Was Made On The GnR Forums 'Chinese Democracy' era... » 10 weeks ago
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the first real leak was Catcher in the Rye in early 2006 no? Before the Hammerstein shows? Possibly 2005?
Yeah. 28th of February 2006
#14 Re: Guns N' Roses » NWA » 11 weeks ago
Thanks all! Kind of reminds me of the rumoured Axl collaboration with another rapper (Shaq?). Clearly there's a gnr / hip hop album in a parallel universe somewhere waiting to come out!
I think Axl said (possibly in the forum chats) that Shaq happened to be in the next studio, Didn't sound like there was any actual plan to do and release something, think they were just messing around in the studio for a few hours, at least that's the vibe I got from reading all that stuff years ago.
There was a rumour in the early to mid 2000's that Nas was going to do something with them. Seems mostly forgotten by people now, and was probably just clickbait nonsense. i remember it being 'reported' on one of those sites that post spurious information. I remember when BITW leaked thinking that it was clearly meant to have a rapper on the verses, I would expect that it was meant to at some point.
#15 Re: Guns N' Roses » NWA » 11 weeks ago
I was reading that back in the day GNR partied a couple of times with N.W.A. and there's a rumour they collaborated on a track called 'yellow brick road of Compton'. I wander if there's any truth in that?
You might find this thread worth a look, https://www.gnrevolution.com/viewtopic.php?id=2515&p=2
#16 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2025 Tour Dates » 16 weeks ago
Shacklermyrye wrote:elevendayempire wrote:Damn, Axl's really singing out of time there.
Jesus christ that's bad...
I haven't really listened to the IEM thing except clips, but that bootleg should make it clear if they use a click these days or not. If not then he probably just needs drums louder in his IEM.
I'll admit I haven't seen or heard much from this tour but the bits I have heard sound awful.
It’s tough to please everyone. People have been complaining he can’t hit the high notes anymore and should sing with his lower voice, so he does it and now that sucks? Can’t win with everyone. Actually thought his voice sounded good. Sure he was rushed and behind at the beginning but cut them some slack. First time ever performing the song. Axl probably hasn’t sung it in 30+ years.
I applaud them for switching things up a bit and playing some different songs on this tour as opposed to the same set list every night. I haven’t been following it super closely either but that’s how it seems to me.
Didn't mean to trigger you. I'll pretend it sounds good then lol
#17 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2025 Tour Dates » 16 weeks ago
Damn, Axl's really singing out of time there.
Jesus christ that's bad...
I haven't really listened to the IEM thing except clips, but that bootleg should make it clear if they use a click these days or not. If not then he probably just needs drums louder in his IEM.
I'll admit I haven't seen or heard much from this tour but the bits I have heard sound awful.
#18 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2025 Tour Dates » 17 weeks ago
Sad that somebody out there has to edit these tracks before 'leaking'' them but then that it what he does. Too far down the road to change your MO now I guess.
#19 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl: I would play the new songs but haven't received a marketing plan » 17 weeks ago
So in a way he is not at fault but TB are. Yet its him who hires them so in a way it is lol
I think these IEMs are going to be pretty revealing.
#20 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2025 Tour Dates » 17 weeks ago
gen dobry Daub. I see you posted them just before me lol. Hoping for full versions