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#1841 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Trouble in Bucketheadland? » 859 weeks ago
I laugh pretty hard whenever I see that picture because I remember when they first released it, and someone commented "Holy Shit, Weiland looks more like Axl than Axl does."
I love that Scott, Slash, Duff and Kushner have clearly put some effort into it, and Matt's just... stuck a skeleton mask and a hat on.
#1842 Re: Guns N' Roses » Europe Tour 2010 - 17 dates + Reading & Leeds Festival » 861 weeks ago
There had better - FUCKING BETTER - be some more UK dates.
#1843 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash - Crucify The Dead » 862 weeks ago
buzzsaw wrote:Whoever wrote this doesn't have the subtle lyrical abilities of Axl, that's for sure.
"I'd like to crush your head tight in my vice"
Axl's best worst lyric is, clearly, "It's such a pity that you're such a bitch."
Just makes me think of this:
#1844 Re: Guns N' Roses » DELETE> Chinese Democracy Multitrack!se NOW » 862 weeks ago
I think if someone posted, say, the 1999 version of Chinese Democracy or the Appetite re-recording, we'd be all over it like a rash.
#1845 Re: Guns N' Roses » Just listened to Chinese Democracy again... » 863 weeks ago
Oh, I agree that musically the final release is better than the 2002-vintage demos that are floating around - literally every single thing that Bumble does added to the songs, from the fretless on Chinese Democracy to the liquid riff in IRS.
But in terms of the news cycle, Axl would've been better off putting an album out in 2002 - it'd been a long time since the last GN'R album, but it hadn't been too long; he could still be painted as the homecoming conquering hero.
But by the time the album did come out, the media had moved the narrative on; Axl was "the sad old recluse who'd dicked around with the album for over a decade."
And he didn't come out and do any press appearances, interviews, music videos; didn't play the media game, so that the negative (or worse, apathetic) voices were allowed to dominate the terms of the debate.
#1846 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR in Ireland » 863 weeks ago
If I can scrape together the cash for a Reading day ticket, I'll take that. Simply 'cause my parents live down there, so I have accommodation on tap.
Pity the line-up for the other two days is shite, really, or I'd be tempted to go for the weekend.
#1847 Re: Guns N' Roses » Just listened to Chinese Democracy again... » 863 weeks ago
It's not even as simple as "if it had come out in 2002 it would've been a hit." It's the way the news media works nowadays; go read a book called Flat Earth News, it dissects how the news cycle operates in the modern era, and how easy it is to manipulate the news agenda if you're prepared to play the game. It's mostly about political news, but the same lessons apply to entertainment news too.
Axl isn't very good at manipulating the media - or, more likely, he has no interest in it. And thus, Chinese Democracy sank like a stone. If it'd been released in 2002, the stars were better aligned for it to be a hit - and the media were more interested in playing the "Axl returns the conquering hero" narrative - but he dropped the ball.
I still maintain that if Axl had turned up in 2002 looking and sounding like he did in 2006 or 2009, he would've had a monster hit on his hands - but he turned up out of shape with the braids and the jersey, and the media narrative turned into "let's laugh at Fat Axl." Of course, there were probably plenty of behind-the-scenes tensions, too - wasn't there some beef between Robin and Buckethead the whole time Buckethead was there?
Axl's best shot now is to go into the studio and record a new album with the current band - who all seem to get along - in double-quick time. And promote the hell out of it.
#1848 Re: Guns N' Roses » DELETE> Chinese Democracy Multitrack!se NOW » 863 weeks ago
I'd kinda like to hear the multitracks just to pick out the layers of guitars and synths and vocals in the songs. But they're a curiosity, nothing more.
Now, a clean version of Catcher in the Rye with Brian May on guitar, or Atlas Shrugged, or Checkmate... now we're talking.
#1849 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chris Vrenna (brief GNR mention - 1997) » 863 weeks ago
Gagarin wrote:I wonder how much Duff would be 'dismissed' by fans/critics if he had remained in the lineup as someone who "didn't really count" when someone would talk about it "only being Axl and 1 other original member".
It's the famous "when's it no longer GNR?" question.
I have a TON of respect for Duff, so I don't mean this insultingly, but I think to the general public at large, in a "guitar rock" band such as GNR, all anyone except hardcore fans really care about is Axl and Slash. Singer and lead guitarist. Same for aerosmith, van hallen, led zep, any kind of band in a similar style. Slash had the distincitive guitars and Axl the distinctive voice. Obviously to us the chemestry comes from those mixed with Izzy, Steven and Duff...but to Joe on the street corner....I seriously think if Slash was around with Axl it would be given 100% legit GNR status.
Yeah, for most bands there are two "iconic members" and as far as the general public's concerned, "it isn't the band" without those two.
Most often that's the singer and the lead guitarist - witness the people slagging off Queen touring with Paul Rogers*, when they wouldn't give a fuck if Freddie was still alive and touring with Brian May and a different bassist. Mick and Keef, the Toxic Twins... it's especially ironic with bands like GN'R and Jane's Addiction, where the major creative force is someone else in the band (Izzy and Eric Avery, respectively).
But yes, I reckon the Incredibly Stupid General Public would be entirely happy with Axl touring the current band and calling it GN'R if Slash were in one of the guitar slots. Pillocks.
*To be fair, Queen + Paul Rogers is shit.
#1850 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR in Ireland » 864 weeks ago
I actually went over from the UK to Ireland to catch them, 'cause the date was announced before any of the UK dates (plus I have family in Dublin, so... cheap accommodation).
