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#1821 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chris Vrenna (brief GNR mention - 1997) » 794 weeks ago
Gagarin wrote:I wonder how much Duff would be 'dismissed' by fans/critics if he had remained in the lineup as someone who "didn't really count" when someone would talk about it "only being Axl and 1 other original member".
It's the famous "when's it no longer GNR?" question.
I have a TON of respect for Duff, so I don't mean this insultingly, but I think to the general public at large, in a "guitar rock" band such as GNR, all anyone except hardcore fans really care about is Axl and Slash. Singer and lead guitarist. Same for aerosmith, van hallen, led zep, any kind of band in a similar style. Slash had the distincitive guitars and Axl the distinctive voice. Obviously to us the chemestry comes from those mixed with Izzy, Steven and Duff...but to Joe on the street corner....I seriously think if Slash was around with Axl it would be given 100% legit GNR status.
Yeah, for most bands there are two "iconic members" and as far as the general public's concerned, "it isn't the band" without those two.
Most often that's the singer and the lead guitarist - witness the people slagging off Queen touring with Paul Rogers*, when they wouldn't give a fuck if Freddie was still alive and touring with Brian May and a different bassist. Mick and Keef, the Toxic Twins... it's especially ironic with bands like GN'R and Jane's Addiction, where the major creative force is someone else in the band (Izzy and Eric Avery, respectively).
But yes, I reckon the Incredibly Stupid General Public would be entirely happy with Axl touring the current band and calling it GN'R if Slash were in one of the guitar slots. Pillocks.
*To be fair, Queen + Paul Rogers is shit.
#1822 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR in Ireland » 795 weeks ago
I actually went over from the UK to Ireland to catch them, 'cause the date was announced before any of the UK dates (plus I have family in Dublin, so... cheap accommodation).
#1823 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses Headline Reading/Leeds Festival (Rumor) » 795 weeks ago
I hope the day tickets are still available for a couple of months - I've got no money atm! 
#1824 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses Headline Reading/Leeds Festival (Rumor) » 796 weeks ago
FUCK YES. Reading is just down the road from my parents', I can crash there for the weekend. Do we know what day they're playing?
#1825 Re: Guns N' Roses » Sound Check VIDEO » 811 weeks ago
Phew - I like that DJ's not fucking around with Robin's guitar parts. Looking forward to hearing TWAT and This I Love now. 
#1826 Re: Guns N' Roses » Sound Check VIDEO » 811 weeks ago
Dammit! Missed it!
Come on UziSuicide....I understand protecting copyrights and shit, but ever hear of viral marketing? Or building anticipation?
IIRC, UziSuicidal isn't actually Axl's mob - it's some cunt of a fan who thinks he's "protecting" Axl's interests.
#1827 Re: Guns N' Roses » how are the shows selling this time around? » 811 weeks ago
...for me Jungle has to be the encore opener. Much more impact when it kicks in as an opener.
Remember, though, we don't have Robin doing that "teasing" intro anymore...
#1828 Re: Guns N' Roses » Sound Check VIDEO » 811 weeks ago
That UziSuicidal CUNT wants shooting. 
#1829 Re: Guns N' Roses » how are the shows selling this time around? » 811 weeks ago
That's a fantastic setlist - leading with Chinese Democracy, woo! How the hell is Axl going to do the Scraped intro live, though?
#1830 Re: Guns N' Roses » Robin's Guitar Stuff for Sale » 812 weeks ago
elevendayempire wrote:Pity he's not selling one of his Les Pauls - I love his tone. Not that I could afford one anyway!
there is one...currently @ $152.50 US...sounds damaged though, and there is no hardware on it
http://cgi.ebay.com/Robin-Finck-Gibson- … 27ad81d07e
http://img1.iwascoding.de/1/2009/12/02/ … 33273E.jpg
Robin Finck-Gibson Les Paul-Custom
Robin regards this item:
I really loved this guitar. It was a song specific piece in two very different environments. I played it on a song called 'Better' in one, 'Discipline' the other. I think I played it on the Fragility tour too, though I can't remember the song(s). The headstock looks terrible. It got 'dropped' and I don't know if it will ever be the same. I can't bare to see it like this. Someone take it away.
Fuck me, the guitar used to write Better and Discipline is going for $500? I'm sorely tempted...
