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#1771 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Renaissance » 840 weeks ago
Stop the 'CD is progressive' nonsense. It is not. Just different. Very different, cause other people had to write the music for Axl and nobody told him not to use stupid '80s synth effects. Dream Theater is (was) progressive. AFD GN'R is debatable, but CD was not progressive at all. Not a second of it. It was dated before it got released, not to mention the uninspired songwriting. OMG
I'm just talking in terms of musical development; the band changed over those years, but we never got to hear the intervening stages which would've made those changes seem more organic. Instead we just jumped straight from A to Z without hearing B, C, D etc.
#1772 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Renaissance » 840 weeks ago
faldor wrote:Just a quick note related to this topic. Listening to The Eddie Trunk show from last night on Sirius and a caller called in and asked him which he liked better, "Slash" or "Chinese Democracy". He said that for him, "Slash" was a better record because it was more straight ahead rock and that CD had a lot going on in it. He did say that the record has grown on him and there a lot of thing on it that he now really likes and that maybe down the line it'll be viewed as a masterpiece. He went on to say that AFD was his favorite GNR album and that he wasn't even a huge fan of the UYI's because even they were getting too bloated for him.
Just made me think when people say CD doesn't sound like a Guns N' Roses record to them. To me it sounds EXACTLY what a Guns N' Roses record was going to sound like. It was quite a progression from AFD to UYI, so the continued progression was only natural.
This.
I feel the same way. I placed CD just slightly ahead of AFD for that reason. It truly seems to me to be the natural progression of things.
As Ron has pointed out, it's like you're skipping from, say, Meet the Beatles to The White Album without hearing the intervening years of musical development; all that stuff is locked down in Axl's vaults. It's a crying shame that we'll never get to hear that material; I'd love to hear the sessions that gave us the so-called 1999 versions of TWAT and IRS...
#1773 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Renaissance » 840 weeks ago
For sure. That part in Madagascar has and still does get me pumped. So many cool parts. I think my favorite is "What we've got here is....FEAR"
Managed to track down the MLK speech on YouTube - really interesting to hear those quotes in their original context:
#1774 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » MATT SORUM Talks DARLING STILETTOS, Future Of VELVET REVOLVER » 840 weeks ago
elevendayempire wrote:I hope to Christ the prospective singer isn't Myles Kennedy. Can't be bothered to learn the lyrics to the old songs, has the weirdest singing voice I've ever heard, no stage presence, and he looks like Jim Carrey.
Ouch that's a bit rough! I think he messed up a line in Civil War a few times, but it's not really much worse than that is it? I also disagree about the stage presence, i'll grant he doesn't have axl's intensity (you know that vibe you get from Axl that he's right on the edge always) but I thought from up front he looks cool and is pretty watchable. I liked his songs on slash's album, I'd be interested to see what he did with a heavier riff though.
He hasn't managed to get the lyrics to Civil War right *once*. He also has a tendency to fuck up the old VR tracks - where Scott would deliberately tweak a line so it reads differently in the second chorus than in the first, Myles just sings the original version twice. If that makes any sense.
I dunno, it just feels lazy to me. There's a reason those lyrics were written like that, and it feels like Myles is just singing them from memory, like he's doing karaoke or something.
And yeah, he doesn't have the stage presence of Axl or Scott. It's like he's seen rockstars doing this shit on TV and he knows you're meant to flail around with the mic stand or whatever, but it always seems a bit forced.
I mean, I'm sure he's a nice guy and all, Slash picked him and he's a better singer than I'll ever be, so who am I to criticise? It's just... well, I can see why Duff nixed the idea of him fronting VR.
That said, I'd imagine the two singers in the running are Myles and Franky Perez. Corey Taylor would be a good pick, though I still maintain that the best person for the gig would be Chester Bennington, not that he'll do it...
#1775 Re: GN'R Downloads » What Axl & Slash would sound like in 2010 » 841 weeks ago
I do love the way he incorporated Axl's spoken-word vocals from the GTA video game - really makes it sound like an Illusions-era track, like KOHD or Breakdown. 
Still think Better goes, um, better with Beautiful Dangerous, though.
#1776 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » MATT SORUM Talks DARLING STILETTOS, Future Of VELVET REVOLVER » 841 weeks ago
I hope to Christ the prospective singer isn't Myles Kennedy. Can't be bothered to learn the lyrics to the old songs, has the weirdest singing voice I've ever heard, no stage presence, and he looks like Jim Carrey.
In a right and just world, Chester Bennington would get the gig; he's got a similar stage presence to Scott, but he's got Axl's pipes.
#1777 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Alternative Art and Covers. » 841 weeks ago
I'd love to get my hands on that alternative cover/booklet...
#1778 Re: Guns N' Roses » DJ Ashba Ovation Demented Collection Guitars » 841 weeks ago
Ashba really does overdo it with the doodles on his guitars, doesn't he? It's like a 14-year-old scribbling skulls on his schoolbooks...
#1779 Re: Guns N' Roses » Dublin, Ireland - September 1, 2010 (The O2) » 841 weeks ago
The guy next to me who shouted out, "No you fucking don't!" when Axl sang, "We go on stage around nine," made me chuckle, though. 
#1780 Re: Guns N' Roses » Dublin, Ireland - September 1, 2010 (The O2) » 841 weeks ago
Thanks for taking the time to give us this review Stepvhen! Whoever said GnR needs a Pr group could not be more right.
I honestly think this is the most important thing the band could do at the moment. Everything comes down to controlling the message; if you don't take control of that, anyone can fill the void with whatever bullshit they like.
If GN'R had a competent PR team... well, there would've been a press release up within hours of the event, in which GN'R were painted as the heroes for returning to the stage and finishing the show in the face of a few asshole fans throwing bottles. The papers would take their line from that, because entertainment reporters are overworked and basically just rewrite press releases anyway. And that message - Axl is the Good Guy here - would percolate out through the media and into peoples' heads.
Instead... the venue got its press release out early, with a few barbs at the "recurring tardiness" of the band, and essentially painted Axl as the villain. They're covering their backs - of course they are - but overworked journos looking for a press release on the event found that, and took their cues from it. And that message - Axl the unstable, late-showing rockstar - is the one that filters out into the mainstream consciousness. And that makes audiences ill-disposed towards him from the outset, and more likely to... well, to do horrible shit like bottling the band.
For God's sake, Axl, get yourself a decent PR team. Unilaterally posting the odd rant on Twitter is not a joined-up PR strategy; if anything, it reinforces the notion of you as a loose cannon. It's all very well privately stropping about people twisting your words and journos making shit up - but the way to solve that is not to retreat into a private shell, it's to go and engage the services of a reputable PR firm, and DO WHAT THEY TELL YOU TO in order to take control of your public image.

