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#161 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 377 weeks ago
Hold on, it is illegal to carry a knife in the U.K. yet a a lot of murders happen from people carrying knives. Lol. So even in knife Free zones they still have knife deaths. We keep going in circles. There are so many just bad dudes (and dudettes) in this world.
Sure, it’s illegal to drive down a pavement knocking over pedestrians like bowling pins as well.
Anyone can pick up a knife from their kitchen and do damage with it (same as with plenty of household items). The scarcity of guns compared to knives makes the likelehood of a shooting much lower than a stabbing.
Agree there are far too many fucked people walking around.
#162 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 377 weeks ago
True enough, I don’t doubt the statistical unlikelehood of you or a family member being killed in a mass shooting. Equally the odds of being stabbed or run over or shot by a radical in a European city centre are equally unlikely. They make tue headlines because it could be you or me. Most murders are between criminals and gangs, nobody concerns themselves with those as much because unless you move in those circles it’s unlikely to affect you. It’s the 1% that terrifies as it has no rationale or even skewed morality to it.
I have no doubt lives have been saved with the presence of a firearm, millions maybe. I think it’s also worth considering, however, how many lives have been lost due to the escalation of a situation due to the presence of a firearm? I have no idea the answer to that btw. I do know though, that most burglars or intruders want jewellery and valuables, not to murder the occupants of the house they are robbing. An armed intruder against an unarmed family has the control, takes their shit and leaves (typically). An armed intruder against a family with a gun could end up all sorts of ways but I’m sure statistically it’s more likely to end up in a gun being fired. As a military man you’d probably fancy your chances but I’m not sure if it’s worth the risk for a typical household? The right to defend yourself is fine in theory but when put to the test the reality can play out quite differently.
There are no easy solutions but I am still in the camp that thinks limiting ease of access for anyone to guns that can kill hundreds of people in minutes is not a violation of a human right.
#163 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 377 weeks ago
Oh, I remember you guys acting like knife attacks were no big deal. There was a knife attack at the same time as that school shooting with about the same amount of damage. Which you guys ignored and dismissed. A psycho with a knife seems to be just as deadly. Maybe you can ban knives.
Carrying a knife is illegal in the UK.
I’m not really sure what your point is. Firstly, regardless of weapon, society gives less of a shit if a load of gang members stab each other to death than a mass shooting in a school or town centre. The two aren’t really comparable events.
Secondly, you can perform a ‘mass killing’ with all sorts of things. Guns, knives, hammers, cars/trucks. The reason there isn’t call to ban these items is they all serve a normal day to day non-violent purpose, guns don’t. They exist to kill, nothing else. You see the difference?
Thirdly, are you seriously trying to suggest that in a situation where a mass murder is going to be attempted, a knife presents the same scope for damage as an assault rifle?
#164 Re: Guns N' Roses » New Slash solo album with Myles Kennedy and the Conspirators incoming » 379 weeks ago
Dissappointed with this.
Admittedly it’s only one show and album announced I think for Slash and Myles so it may only be a limited live run. However the pieces seem to be lining up more to Axl/DC following the summer GNR tour than a new GNR album.
Axl/DC is cool and not a bad consolation assuming it happens but it’s new GNR stuff I want first and foremost.
Assuming a typical album/tour cycle from AC/DC starting next year we’re probably looking at 2021 at the earliest for a chance of GNR music.
#165 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » I hung out with Tommy and Ron in the last few weeks » 379 weeks ago
it's a bummer those guys had to leave in the end. that was an end of everything.
It was an end of the car crash known as the CD era but that needed euthanizing about 5 years earlier anyway.
#166 Re: Guns N' Roses » BRIAN JOHNSON: 'I Had A Great Run' With AC/DC » 381 weeks ago
Agreed.
Depends on by what parameter you want to define ‘big’ of course but I can’t think of a ‘bigger’ musical artist/band with a smaller discog than GNR.
#167 Re: Guns N' Roses » BRIAN JOHNSON: 'I Had A Great Run' With AC/DC » 381 weeks ago
Was anyone under the impression his run wasn’t over?
Depends, I always got the feeling there was more to it than just the hearing thing (although based off his last few shows it was clearly an issue). Rumour has it that they all made peace at Malcolms funeral. If his hearing was something that could be fixed to a degree he could tour again and they were back on good terms then there was a slim chance of a return.
I’m cool with Axl/DC providing it doesnt obstruct GNR.
#168 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 382 weeks ago
Saw The Revanent the other day. Absorbing but heavy going at the same time. I enjoyed it but I don’t think I’ll ever get the urge to watch it again.
#169 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 384 weeks ago
Most things can be used as a weapon if someone wants to do harm, knives, cars etc. The difference is they serve other purposes, guns exist purely to kill people.
I do think this is a two branched argument though. It’s perfectly valid to debate the merits of gun control but equally why, when and how did mass shootings/killings especially schools become the outlet of choice for the unstable and disillusioned American? Sure mass attacks happen elsewhere but they are typically rare, certainly in western society. Yet the states has had nearly 20 so far this year. Removing the appeal or glamour of commiting such a crime and working out why it is becoming a cultural norm is as important as gun control imo.
Both need to looking at if you are to reduce these types of incidents.
#170 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 384 weeks ago
How many of that remaining 99% are gang related type shootings?
Gang members duking it out doesn’t worry people because the chances of an innocent person (or multiple people) being killed are low. It’s that 100-200 per year in schools or a mall or a concert that’s the difference between shrugs of indifference and public outcry over guns.
