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#161 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Some more interesting points in Slash's book that I never knew about » 915 weeks ago
AtariLegend wrote:Synyster Gates wrote:I heard different about Coma.
The way I remember was that it was described as Slash's "baby." He wrote it, and Axl got frustrated with it because he could not come up with any lyrics, then on night, they just all poured out of his head.
Axl: It's like 11 minutes and 45 seconds long, with no chorus. And I think there was only like one verse that somewhat repeats itself. It's Slash's baby - it's his monster. The song used to be called Girth.
Slash: I like "Coma" a lot. It's got a defibrillator in it - you know, the instrument that starts your heart when it's stopped. And there's some EKG beeps too. We were just fucking around, but the song is heavy, and Axl's vocals are gorgeous - I mean really amazing.
Slash didn't like the song?
I guess Slash didn't remember it that way, after he left the band...
Exactly. I think that a lot people just saint Slash. As much as defending Axl gets some of us in trouble, no one ever seems to realize that Slash's story has in fact changed on a lot of things over the years.
Memory anyones is always questionable... Its the Einstein thing.... Perspective, as they change memory becomes less reliable... everyones....
#162 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy With Patti Hood....? » 915 weeks ago
"the luggage thing doesn't mean he lacks vision it means he is eccentric"
or unstable or mentally ill...
#163 Re: Guns N' Roses » How will the delays effect C.D.'s sales? » 915 weeks ago
Jameslofton wrote:Key moment to release it was fall 2002 weeks after the VMA's, and the last good chance it had was immediately after the 2006 leaks.
Nothing will ever bring interest in the album like it would've had in years past.
the same feeling can be achieved again with one simple thing.....another 4-5 year gap of absolute silence....
does keep him from being over saturated BUT we are moving perilously close to Brian Wilson irrelevance not irreverence. There is a point when the people who remember just don't care anymore however that said I think that story plays out more int he US than anywhere else... You are talking a huge global draw.
#164 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Weiland Arrested Again » 915 weeks ago
I'm really not saying this as some kinda VR negativity guy, but reading part of that Tmz report, isn't that the kinda thing people use against Axl?
nah he bites people far more entertaining:haha:
#165 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Weiland Arrested Again » 915 weeks ago
rule number one; Never incriminate yourself or give them anything that could be used to incriminate you...
rule number two: get a driver
Okay at least he gets rule number one...progress....
#166 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Weiland Arrested Again » 915 weeks ago
They ALL need larger challenges than an album and tour...
#167 Re: Guns N' Roses » Check out this new rumor » 916 weeks ago
From a global name recognition perspective, I think it will be a losing battle to fight for promotional funds... Just my opinion. The Bean counters will not see huge promotion as necessary, at least on a global scale. Fighting with a Six Sigma mentality almost never changes the outcome...I kind of agree actually if you come on to strong with the promotion it cheapens the powerful presence that once epitomized the band...people will either buy it or they wont. More money at this point will not really change what is going to happen...Curiosity is often more powerful than something that is in your face... It will tip on its own like it always has or it will not. Not like they releases UYI in a timely manner either.. The right movie promotion has always been key for this band.
From a label perspective they can always add promotion funds to the back end if necessary. AFD was huge in some markets long before it hit others. Promotion at Geffen was always like a ghost in the machine anyway...They stayed behind the band but in a sustained not particularly aggressive manner...Ax can generate plenty of press on his own when he starts the machine up...In reality probably more than he wants. They did not give him 13 million dollars or whatever it is up to now because they thought he was a lame horse, its a business not an art form ...When they drop the record it will reduce there touring promotion cost as well, thats where the money will be for the band. But its the mental health that takes you the distance.... NOT THE MONEY, It's not the money....
#168 Re: Guns N' Roses » Check out this new rumor » 916 weeks ago
"The Wall" was given very little promotional money for the same reason Chinese Democracy will not receive much promotional money. It does not need it. Ax like Waters remains rigidly in control...
#169 Re: Guns N' Roses » "The Spaghetti Incident?" (14 Years On) » 917 weeks ago
I don't just look at it in hindsight. I was 18 when that was released, and I remember buying it. I enjoyed getting to hear some new Guns material, but it left much to be desired, and as I mentioned earlier, really stuck out like a sore thumb among what else was going on in the 93-94 period. You had Whitney ruling the charts, Janet Jackson kicking ass, hip hop making its first big statement with 2pac, Dre and Snoop, a poppy R & B group named Arrested Development that just about everyone was listening to, the rise of TLC, Soul Asylum on top of rock with their one hit wonder, Rod Stewart resurrecting his career with MTV Unplugged, soft rock bands like Gin Blossoms, Spin Doctors getting huge airplay, Meat Loaf is back, Toni Braxton's career taking off, girl bands like Ace of Base, En Vogue,etc. at their peak, Aerosmith still on top of their game, Mary J. Blige's career takes off, easy listening crap like Jon Secada, Michael Bolton, and Kenny G finding a mainstream audience, Boyz II Men shattering records, the rise of R Kelly, Mellencamp getting big again with Wild Nights, Aliyah's debut, Prince number one again, Babyface establishing himself as a hitmaker, Collective Soul debuts, the Hootie and the Blowfish craze, Soundgarden releases a masterpiece, the Sheryl Crow craze, Nirvana hits it big again before Cobain's suicide, "Girl rock" like Liz Phair, Elastica, PJ Harvey, Luscious Jackson takes off, artists like Enigma, Crystal Waters, etc. get huge in clubs, The Cranberries, Beck debuts, the Boss comes back with that Philadelphia crap, Live releases an incredible album, Danzig comes back, Seal gets huge, Tom Petty back with a vengeance, Bonnie Raitt, Garth Brooks, and a few others keep country going, STP helps keep rock alive, Melissa Etheridge has her best year ever. List goes on and on.
What does GNR bring to the table during this incredible two years for the music industry?
The Spaghetti Incident and Sympathy for the Devil.
The fact the fanbase considers it mediocre has less to do with it being the band's last release. It has to do with their favorite band becoming as relevant as your rotting christmas tree still sitting by your garbage can two weeks after Christmas.
Nobody fucking cared. Not even their own fans. There were too many interesting things going on to care about GNR doing covers.
And the next year we had Alanis and Seal (same manager, same label, huge sales) and then we had Karma and lots of it for the music industry....and the cult like mentality of the family becomes even more secretive.....?... there is no end to how much shit this album caused in Hollywood with that Manson song....No end to the school in crime.....Huge contribution? To the poisoning of our generations collective conscious...
After TSI and Cobain the industry put a stop to any legitimate songwriters. Boy bands and Girl starlets...all groomed to produce results wanted by an agenda I wonder if we will ever know.....TSI was a disaster on many levels...most of all the negativity of it played right into the industries hand and musicians were all carving holes in the bottom of the ship they were all adrift in. This IS Brilliance? This is ethical egoism not Rock N Roll. It is in reality the antithesis of what those Punk songs were supposed to represent....
#170 The Garden » Small planets forming in the Pleiades: astronomers » 918 weeks ago
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A glimmer of hope for the arts.....
Small planets forming in the Pleiades: astronomers
Wed Nov 14, 5:17 PM ET
Small, rocky planets that could resemble the Earth or Mars may be forming around a star in the Pleiades star cluster, astronomers reported on Wednesday.
One of the stars in the cluster, also known as the Seven Sisters, is surrounded by an extraordinary number of hot dust particles that could be the "building blocks of planets" said Inseok Song, a staff scientist at NASA's Spitzer Science Center at the California Institute of Technology.
"This is the first clear evidence for planet formation in the Pleiades, and the results we are presenting may well be the first observational evidence that terrestrial planets like those in our solar system are quite common," said Joseph Rhee of the University of California Los Angeles, who led the study.
There is "hundreds of thousands of times as much dust as around our sun," said Benjamin Zuckerman, a UCLA professor of physics and astronomy. "The dust must be the debris from a monster collision, a cosmic catastrophe."
The team used two telescopes to spot the dust, and report their findings in Astrophysical Journal.
Located about 400 light years away in the constellation of Taurus, the Pleiades is one of the best known star clusters and among the closest to Earth. A light-year is the distance light travels in a year, about 5.8 trillion miles.
"The cluster actually contains some 1,400 stars," said Song.
Song said the dust can accumulate into comets and small asteroid-size bodies, and then clump together to form planetary embryos, and finally full-fledged planets.
"In the process of creating rocky, terrestrial planets, some objects collide and grow into planets, while others shatter into dust; we are seeing that dust," Song said.
"Our observations indicate that terrestrial planets similar to those in our solar system are probably quite common," Zuckerman added.
Researchers have observed about 200 planets around stars outside our solar system but none are as small as Earth and just one, spotted earlier this year, appears potentially capable of supporting life.
