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#151 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 173 weeks ago
He's sounding pretty good at the Glasgow show:
#152 Re: Guns N' Roses » Which song gets released first?!? » 173 weeks ago
I hope the working dynamic allows slash to really re-jig the songs but I suspect its more like they just mute the existing solos and he improvises a solo where there was one.
I dunno, I think they pretty radically altered Hard Skool. All the meandering intro (an Axl signature – see Riad, Chinese Democracy etc) was stripped out. You can just picture Duff going, "lose all that shite, bass riff, couple of drum hits and straight into the song."
#153 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 173 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:GUNS N' ROSES: 'Worst Glastonbury Headline Set Of All Time'?
U.K.'s Independent calls GUNS N' ROSES' performance at Glastonbury "the worst Glastonbury headline set of all time" and refers to singer Axl Rose as the band's "fatal flaw." The reviewer, Mark Beaumont, writes: "Rose makes the whole thing sound like a Muppet Show pastiche of hard rock. It's his voice: a creature that, were you to take it to a vet, would come home in a cardboard box."https://blabbermouth.net/news/watch-dav … B6DzTL5eqo
I'm still gonna see them on August 18th, but the author isn't wrong and anyone who's watched the band since 2016 knows this to be true. Slither beyond every other song needs to be dropped. He can't sing it. It sounds bad, and there are other songs he can do.
My god that review is brutal but hilarious in a way only the British press can be
The writer is ex-NME, so it tracks. It's staffed by insecure indie kids who can't bear seeing someone enjoy music they don't like. They're incapable of celebrating music; they only know how to draw up dividing lines between in-groups and out-groups, and sit there in their little adolescent clique sneering at the designated pariahs.
I danced a fucking jig when the last issue of that rag was printed.
#154 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 173 weeks ago
I'm 10000% against this.
Unfortunately....it's probably going to happen because many bands/artists do it now. Hell .... even Roger Waters lip syncs some of the songs.
I remain convinced that in 2-3 years, AI will have got to the point where an AI model trained on a performer's younger voice can be overlaid on their current vocals as an effect in real-time, at a quality where the audience will be none the wiser. The experiments we've seen on YouTube are almost convincing, and that's people working with scrappy vocals using off the shelf tools. With an AI model trained on the hundreds of hours of isolated vocal tracks from live and studio recordings that bands have access to, it should be a *lot* easier.
And since it'll be applied as an effect to the performer's actual voice, it won't have those odd moments where you think, "That sounds like Axl in places, but it's clearly being sung with the cadences and the vocal tics that Scott Weiland/Andrew Stockdale/Myles Kennedy use."
It'll be a new lease of life for a lot of performers.
#155 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 173 weeks ago
Ditch certain songs....
Slither
Again – the Classic Rock Magazine review points out that Slither was the first song where people started signing along to it (I actually noticed it myself, watching the BBC coverage, because it stood out to me – "the Glastonbury crowd is singing along to a Velvet Revolver track from 2004?"). Personally I'm not a fan of Axl's rendition of the song – he consistently sings "That's the spot/where you run to me" with the wrong emphasis, and he sings a high melody in the chorus. Which is surprising since you'd think Scott's material would lend itself to his much stronger lower register. But it undeniably clicked with that audience.
YCBM needs to go. Acoustic mini-set with Used to Love Her, Patience and You're Crazy would be neat – they're definitely within his lower-register wheelhouse (the first two especially, because if Weiland could sing them with his lower-register voice, Axl surely can).
#156 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 173 weeks ago
GUNS N' ROSES: 'Worst Glastonbury Headline Set Of All Time'?
U.K.'s Independent calls GUNS N' ROSES' performance at Glastonbury "the worst Glastonbury headline set of all time" and refers to singer Axl Rose as the band's "fatal flaw." The reviewer, Mark Beaumont, writes: "Rose makes the whole thing sound like a Muppet Show pastiche of hard rock. It's his voice: a creature that, were you to take it to a vet, would come home in a cardboard box."https://blabbermouth.net/news/watch-dav … B6DzTL5eqo
I'm still gonna see them on August 18th, but the author isn't wrong and anyone who's watched the band since 2016 knows this to be true. Slither beyond every other song needs to be dropped. He can't sing it. It sounds bad, and there are other songs he can do.
Most of the coverage has been much more even-handed. Indeed, I've seen a lot of pushback against the Independent's review on the r/unitedkingdom subreddit (the very definition of a general audience):
4-stars from the Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/ … amid-stage
BBC:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-66011512
3-stars from the NME, of all people:
https://www.nme.com/reviews/live/guns-n … st-3460919
4-stars from Classic Rock Magazine (which points out that the "first major singalong of the evening" was Slither):
https://www.loudersound.com/reviews/gun … ury-review
4-stars from the Evening Standard:
https://www.standard.co.uk/culture/musi … 90021.html
#157 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 174 weeks ago
Reviews seem generally positive:
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/ … amid-stage
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-66011512
Broadly speaking the tone seems to be: "Axl's voice isn't what it used to be, but he fully commits, running around like a mad thing and sometimes manages to pull off the classic screams, Slash is iconic, an impressively long set but for the casuals in Glastonbury maybe they should've left some of the deep cuts on the shelf."
Lana Del Rey actually did GN'R a massive favour by turning up late to her slot and having her set cut short, because it means that all the reviewers are "pleasantly surprised" that GN'R showed up on time, because it's apparently news to them despite the band having been religiously punctual since fucking 2016.
#158 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 174 weeks ago
At that level of the industry I'd imagine that there is a degree of specialisation, yeah. Though IIRC Caram Constanzo works on both live and in-studio material, so who knows?
#159 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 174 weeks ago
Dave Grohl and the Foos are at Glasto by the looks of it. Could see him coming up to jam Paradise City again.
Dave Grohl at Glastonbury right now
— Foo Fighters UK (@FooFightersUK) June 23, 2023
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#160 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 174 weeks ago
I do find it very odd that we're getting all these songs piecemeal and not as an album. Though I suppose it's in keeping with GN'R's previous approach ahead of the Illusions – just random drops of individual songs like Civil War and KOHD on soundtracks and charity albums.
