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#1501 Re: The Sunset Strip » Michael Jackson Discussion » 834 weeks ago

No it's not. It's a fact, from the perception of Michael Jackson himself. I've just seen too many inteviews man. The man truely had the best intentions for children. He loved them. You could see it in his face.

What we don't know is if his love was psychologically twisted.

I used the phrase 'best intentions', because we all know what the road to hell is paved with.

The difficult part for me is that there is just too much conflicting information on both fronts for me to come to a conclusion either way.  It's clear that he loves children and does generous things for them--the Ryan White thing and the building of Neverland. Then there are those strange things like James mentioned--the room with the alarm.  The man himself admitted on tv that he still slept with children and felt nothing wrong with it.  There is compelling arguments on both sides and either point could be made.

It's probably just easier to blame it on that giant douchebag Joe Jackson.  I think its pretty sleazy that one of the first things he mentioned in that video posted in the other thread is that Michael's three children are living with him and Katherine and that Debroah Rowe (I presume) will have to deal with him through a lawyer.  I hope Janet Jackson gets as far away from him as possible since she's the only one with talent left in the family.

#1502 Re: GNRevolution Madness » GnREvolution Television Madness - Discussion and Results Thread » 834 weeks ago

Could we divide the sitcoms from the dramas?  I don't think having the Sopranos go against something like Wings would be really fair.  Throwing them all into one big random batch could have a lot of bizarre results.  I like the inclusion of British shows as I have been meaning to check out Fawlty towers.

#1503 Re: Guns N' Roses » When All Is Said And Done... » 835 weeks ago

I think at some point in the last 10 years--probably around 1999-2003 Axl was extremely interested in releasing music.  But when he hit the snags and the project was being ridiculed he lost confidence in the project and just thought to hell with this.

I think that if Axl could figure out how to not get into stupid debt, and could find a comfortable livable wage from only his royalties....we'd never hear from the guy again.

I'm pretty sure this was the reason why the 2006 tour happened as they needed cash to continue with the recording of CD as UMG had cut them off in 2004.  It was a pure cash grab in retrospect.

#1504 Re: The Sunset Strip » Favorite foreign films » 835 weeks ago

I just saw Audition and have a whole bunch of questions for James. 

Hidden Text:

Who was the old guy in the wheelchair?  He's identified as the ballet teacher but I thought he could be her stepfater as well.

The sequence after he gets knocked out the first time from the poisoned booze was a hallucination/dream right?  It was kind of confusing at first.

What really happened at the bar Azumi claimed to be working at?  Did she kill the owner or was that just another lie.

Overall, a very interesting film especially the last 50 minutes or so.  A tad slower than I expected.  I was actually expecting a lot more blood and gore.  I liked the guy who played Aoyoma's friend.  It seemed like he was right on his assesment of Azumi.  The audition scenes where he started asking those questions was funny too.

I'm going to watch Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance in a few days, any opinons on that one?

#1505 Re: The Sunset Strip » Michael Jackson's This Is It Discussion » 835 weeks ago

You can really see the genuine worry on her face in that close up pic. Just goes to show people shouldn't hold grudges with their family. You never know when its all gonna end. Been tons of animosity between those two for years. In that book I mentioned earlier in the thread, it said how those two disliked each other for many years. Jealousy obviously a factor, which is stupid.

Wasn't there rumors a couple years ago of a Jackson 5 reunion in the works?

Let's be honest here  The Jacksons are one dysfunctional family.  In between Joe beating on Michael, Janet and her problems, the feud between Latoya and Michael, there is a lot of unhappiness here.  I think the family still depended on him for income (outside of Janet) since none of them are recognizable names in the music industry anymore.  They were probably still leeching off him until the end.

OT  Has there been any child star that has been able to live a relatively normal life?  It seems like every one of them have some problem or another and most of them end up dying young.

#1506 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Loaded feat. Michael Monroe - Attitude & New Rose » 835 weeks ago

Great vid, thanks. It's great to see Duff performing some GNR related stuff again.  Monroe doesn't sound half bad either.

#1507 Re: The Sunset Strip » Waiter "Delighted" Over $4,000 Tip From Johnny Depp » 835 weeks ago

Anybody seen Ninth gate?  I've read the book the movie based on and avoided this film because I've read some bad reviews and I'm pretty sure they focused on the wrong plotline.  I tried watching it on tv once and it was confusing too.

#1508 Re: GNRevolution Madness » GnREvolution Movie Madness - The Final 4: Battle 2 » 835 weeks ago

I could have voted for either film but went with Goodfellas.

#1509 Re: The Sunset Strip » Michael Jackson's This Is It Discussion » 835 weeks ago

He also paid 20 million to settle that initial 1993 case.  That doesn't scream innocence to me.  If nothing truly happened he would have fought tooth and nail to protect his name and rep.  This was in 1993 where his name still meant something in the music world.  I was watching NBC where this cop who worked on this case said point blank that the accuser gave a very detailed description of Michael's genitals.  I believe the legal document (criminal complaint) that the accuser made in 1993 was leaked onto The Smoking Gun.  I read that and there is a lot of damming evidence against Michael Jackson.

Then around 10 years later similar charges are brought against him again.  I don't think it is coincidental.  He got off by basically putting the accuser on trial by focusing on their problems.  Then there was that Bashir piece that aired on ABC.  That's way too much stuff for me to say he's not a pedophile.

#1510 Re: The Sunset Strip » Michael Jackson's This Is It Discussion » 835 weeks ago

No matter how much I fucking hate child molesters, I don't believe he ever messed with children that way.

I don't know about that as there was far too much circumstantial evidence for me to ignore.

I read a killer book about him in the mid 90s. Wish I remembered the name of it and I'd read it again. Told a lot of troubling info, so I assume it was from someone on the "inside". Wasn't bullshit either.

Is this the book-- Michael Jackson the Magic and the Madness?  Authored by J. Randy Taraborrelli.

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