I recall one of the Rock In Rio's where Axl dragged Beta onto stage and made this long speech about how much she helped him out, including with contracts and 'what a pain in the arse he could be about that'

Call me naive but I'm willing to believe the record is finished, but Axl is being a Diva and demanding all manner of things that the record company won't give into. Or, as someone else alluded to, they want to see some decent management behind the band before pushing ahead. I'm willing to bet that Beta and Del don't instill the greatest confidence in the execs who will want to make sure that the band make every effort to promote the record. You know, interviews and stuff, like Sebastian.

Ultimately though, for both sides there's $ involved and that alone probably means they'll reach a compromise at one point.

Probably not as bad as if you left and then didn't get the credit for years of hard work.

Tommy was selling fax machines or something before he landed a job with GN'R...I think I'd know which job I'd prefer, release or no release.

Robin I don't know about at all.

But my guess is Axl rewards those loyal to him well.

The whole multiple album talk is losing its appeal. I don't understand why Baz keeps taunting us with this type of talk when the band can't even talk about one. Grrrr this has got to end one day.

Newsnight recently ran an experiment in China where they got Chinese kids to elect a class monitor.

I'm starting to think Democracy will arrive in China before Axl's fucking album.