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#101 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Reason Behind The Delay Of "Chinese Democracy"....? » 920 weeks ago
AtariLegend wrote:From a few hours ago...
Mysteron wrote:The delay is being caused by the record company. The ball is in their court now.
Why? They've been waiting for the fucking album for a decade like the rest of us. They aren't going to delay it now.
Exactly.
I can't believe that some people are actually buying into this crap.
Supposedly the record company has been trying to get this thing out of him for years, but now they are going to hold up the release ?? Please.
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#102 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Reason Behind The Delay Of "Chinese Democracy"....? » 920 weeks ago
I agree, there's no sense in rushing it(you know what I mean).
If its truly finished and Uni is just deciding on when to pull the trigger, I can easily see us going into the 1st quarter of next year with nothing. Maybe get a concrete date before summer.
Remember how "recording was complete" this past January. People were swearing up and down that this album would be out no later than summer 07'. Now here we are 2 months from 08'. This is just another excuse for another delay. Every other band in this world is able to put out an album but these guys.
I'm with Pasnow - I say that the label doesn't have this album in their possesion. It's just more vague excuses on Mysteron's part.
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#103 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Reason Behind The Delay Of "Chinese Democracy"....? » 920 weeks ago
Mysteron is right, this makes total sense. The cd is turned in, artwork etc completed. They just do not want to release this album. Yes that's it. WAHHHHHHH the label won't release CD, wAHHHHHHH. WAHHHHHH the label has a grudge against Axl WAHHHHHHHHH WAHHHHHHHH the label wants Axl to pay 13 million before they release it, otherwise they will hold onto it forever WAHHHHHHHHH WWAHHHHHHH protest the record company, they are evil WAHHHHHHHHHHH WAHHHHHHHH it's the record companies fault WAHHHHHHHHHHHH
Seriously, you'd have to be from another planet to believe this. The label would LOVE to release this. The only hint of truth that might be in this, is if Axl said "I'll turn the masters in if........." (if the label does this ______ ie. renogitiate the contract, forgive the 13 mil advance etc etc). But in no way, whatsoever do I believe the master was handed in, and is just sitting on somebody's desk because the label has a vandetta or grudge against Axl. Absolutely not. The label is trying to make money. Selling a GnR record would do just that.
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Completely agree.
Some people just refuse to see the obvious. They rather put the blame on everyone or everything instead of the 1 person that they should be.
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#104 Re: Guns N' Roses » Lay Your Cards on the Line » 920 weeks ago
One other thing regarding the Mysteron statement: They just crossed the line in the sand. It has went from being GNR as the reason for the hold up to the record company. They can no longer say "the album needs more work', 'Axl has to tidy up the vocals',etc.
I agree that Mysteron's latest comments are a change, but they could still go back to "the album needing more work." Axl has said that the album was done before, the cover art, all that good stuff. We know how that panned out. Axl, Merck and Mysteron said that the album was coming out last year, we know how that panned out. Things change all the time in the GN'R world. It's never ever their fault. It's always some unforseen obstacle.
I honestly wouldn't be at all surprised if we were sititng here in November 2008 discussing why it still isn't out yet. Like I said, I hope that I'm wrong, but we'll see.
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#105 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Reason Behind The Delay Of "Chinese Democracy"....? » 920 weeks ago
Mysteron wrote:The delay is being caused by the record company. The ball is in their court now.
I guess since Mysteron's comment warranted a whole new thread, it also warrants my same response:
Are you wanting me to be impressed that Mysteron said it was in the record company's hands now ? Again, I don't believe every line of bs that I hear. Mysteron has said things in the past that have meant nothing. Was his "expect the unexpected" comment a few months back supposed to mean that he knew the album was going to be held up next by a "business thing."
Even if the ball is in the record company's hands now, it doesn't mean that it is anywhere near coming out. This "business thing" could be played out for an eternity just as all of these other obstacles have been over the years. I hope that I'm wrong, and it does actually comes out sometime in the near future, but I am by no means counting on it. I don't care what Mysteron says.
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#106 Re: Guns N' Roses » Lay Your Cards on the Line » 920 weeks ago
Good honest answers by all, except for one person who I figured wouldn't say anything. Some suprising opinions with some of you. See, you can't judge a book by it's cover!
I'm supposing this was directed at me ? Get a life. I don't know where you are but some of us sleep in the middle of the night, smart guy. And why are they "good, honest answers", because they share your opinion ?
Are you wanting me to be impressed that Mysteron said it was in the record company's hands now ? Again, I don't believe every line of bs that I hear. Mysteron has said things in the past that have meant nothing. Was his "expect the unexpected" comment a few months back supposed to mean that he knew the album was going to be held up next by a "business thing."
Even if the ball is in the record company's hands now, it doesn't mean that it is anywhere near coming out. This "business thing" could be played out for an eternity just as all of these other obstacles have been over the years. I hope that I'm wrong, and it does actually comes out sometime in the near future, but I am by no means counting on it. I don't care what Mysteron says.
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#107 Re: Guns N' Roses » Baz now claims 4 GNR albums exist » 920 weeks ago
bringbackadler wrote:Well dude, that is my opinion. Do you live in Iraq or something ? Is that why you are unable to accept someone else's opinion ?
If in your mind GN'R = a revolving door of musicians that Axl has on payroll, and doesn't release albums with, that's your decision, and you are most certainly entitled to that opinion.
To me, and a shitload of other people in the world, GN'R will always be the 5 guys that I already mentioned.
It doesn't mean that I don't want to hear Axl's new music. Log off of htgth for a day or 2 and you will probably be able to comprehend a difference of opinion a little better.
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i have no problem accepting other opinions. what you are saying is not an opinion, its a flat out lie.
What's a lie ?
I seriously hate to break it to you bro, but your kidding yourself if you think the majority of casual fans could tell you that Finck & Fortus are guitar players, or that GN'R has "2 drummers in the family." In fact, if you were to tell a casual fan this, they'd probably just laugh at you and be like Axl's fucking crazy and he needs to get Slash back.
In fact, last year when I took a few days off to fly out to a Hammerstein show, I was telling people that I was flying out to NY to see Nu GN'R. My co-workers were laughing and saying how ridiculous this whole revolving door/ Chinese D saga has become. I was telling them how the band was currently on their 4th drummer at the time and that they had another new guitar player because Bucket left. They were all laughing and not one of them knew who any of the band members were that I was mentioning. Hell, some of them are even pretty music savvy. Every one of them knew who Slash and Izzy were though.
My point is, you can bitch and whine all you want, but you know that I'm right. I realize who's in GN'R these days, and I'm not saying that I have the authority to change anything. Honestly, I don't even care anymore. I'm willing to wait for a reunion and give Axl's Chinese D a shot (even though I have doubts about him ever releasing it), but I can't see why you have to whine like a girl just because I said I will always view GN'R as the 5 guys who actually made the name what it is today. There's no lie about it. You just choose to ignore reality.
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#108 Re: Guns N' Roses » Love Is A Bitchslap With Axl » 920 weeks ago
By way of a long story, I'm in need of a PM from someone about Love Is A Bitchslap again.
Done.
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#109 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » SLASH: More Book-Signing Appearances Announced » 920 weeks ago
Can't wait to read this book.
Plan on picking up my copy this weekend.
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#110 Re: Guns N' Roses » Lay Your Cards on the Line » 920 weeks ago
Okay, here are my reasons:
1.) Axl made the original members sign over their rights to the name or he'd not play anymore. He threatened on many occasions to end Guns n' Roses while all the others were too spaced out of their mind to even think straight. His reasons were they all were too fucked up to keep it together and he had to do something. I have no problems with him doing this but I do have a problem with him making them sign stuff when they were so out of it had they been sober, they never would have done it. It's Axl's way or the highway as we have seen my the multitude of producers who have come and gone on CD and if no one caters to Axl's needs, you won't cut the mustard.
2.) Yes, bring on a reunion because that is the true Guns n' Roses and that is the only way every fucking idiotic thing Axl has done will make him look good again in the public eye. You can sugar coat it all you want, but the majority of the people know Guns n' Roses as Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy and Matt or if you are a true gunner then Steven. Not taking away from this new incarnation at all, but let's face it, we on the boards have waited since what 2000 for CD to be released and we've been lied to and fucked with so imagine how the current members feel. Hell, they even (or Tommy said) that he would WELCOME a reunion of Axl was up for it (funny how that article mysteriously disappeared off of HTGTH) but I assure you it was there.
3.) Every fucking thing in life is holding up CD. We'll never know exactly what is holding it up because the music business lies to the fans and tells us all what we want to hear and then they go silent and people speculate and shit. But Axl's scared to release it because he is searching for that proverbial pot of gold at the end of the rainbow and there is never an end to a rainbow.
4.) It's all about the $$$$$ Whoever thinks Axl is not in this for the $$$$ he'd get from the release of CD and all the other shit he has recorded is in serious denial. The Record Company is also in it for the $$$$ and only when they can agree on the $$$$ aspect, just maybe we'll get a release date.
5.) CD won't be a smashing success because it won't be released. It's the same thing over and over again. We get a tour, they hide. We get an update, then it goes silent. It's the same circle of bullshit every fucking year so I say bring back the original band and if you are going to be stuck in the 80s at least have the original members play those hits. Again, no disrespect to the new members, but it's like when you have a fight with a friend and then start hanging around new friends and you do that to piss off the one that hurt you and then you suddenly make amends with your friends. A reunion will happen. It's all a matter of time and remember that is not Eastern, Pacific, Central, or Mountain time but Axl time.
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