Lmfao where did i debate what Marco Beltrami stated in 2003. I stated that his recollection was flawed 20 years later when he exchanged emails with poster named D... on mygnr. I provided proof his statement in 2023 not 2003 were not accurate. So once again reading comprehension is not your strong suit.
Go back and look at the post and come back with a prompt apology !

You want to debate that orchestration of The General and Monster's aren't similar or could possibly be a continuation between the songs.

That the General and Monsters weren't supposed to played together even though the orginal vinyl release had them together continuously ?

That's your point ?

Hey sport Marco confirmed he worked leave me alone which became soul monster that's correct, i never said he didn't i just posted factual information about Marco Beltrami not having a accurate track record on how many songs he worked on or is reading comprehension not a strength of yours ?

You believe the orchestra on the general and monsters are not similar or not connected together ? Why ?

I plug evo on badapplesforum and on my show so what's your point ?

You could actually educate yourself !

Or do you not want to do that ?

A stormy sea , a reckless sea , a endless sea are lyrics in Nothin'

Here's a post of mine from badapplesforum
Once again here's what you're basing that off of https://www.mygnrforum.com/topic/226301 … nt-5045353

Sadly he doesn't remember Monsters former name. He does remember a song being quite long but unsure if it was The General or another one. But if it was, it's not The General we have, as apparently there was a longer song he worked on (but he's unsure whether that long song was The General back then, maybe it's Seven or another one we haven't heard).

Just to be clear, he did listen to the leaks, I wanted to make sure he understood and could compare with what he remembers, and what we have has been modified from when he worked on those, so I guess it's hard for him to properly remember specific former names. But he does recognize those two songs & his work, and they weren't a single song back then (just like we have a hard time understanding how they could form a single song, as it is). The instrumental part isn't meant to form a continuity between this version of The General, and this version of Monsters, both instrumental were specific creations of his. Each 8 songs he's worked on/arranged had a specific arrangement meant for a particular song.

Per Marco Beltrami He can't Remember if Monsters is Soul Monsters according to post by D..... lmfao.

Let's also address the myth that Marco Beltrami only worked on 8 songs  :Mel:

"[GNR] was sort of just work for hire. [...] I met with Axl and he played me these songs, asked me my ideas about them, and I told him what I thought they needed. They gave me four songs to orchestrate. [...] A song called 'Seven,' which is the one [...] I actually wrote a guitar part [on]. There was one called 'Thyme,' one called 'The General,' one called 'Leave Me Alone.'" (Marco Beltrami, IGN, 07/20/03)

So that's 4 correct ?

1.The General

2.Soul Monster aka Leave Me Alone

3.Seven

4.Thyme

Now according to Chinese Democracy official liner notes

http://albumlinernotes.com/Chinese_Democracy.html

5.Street of Dream's

6.This I Love

7.Madagascar

8.TWAT

9.Prostitute

That's a total of 9 we know of

But D.... conversation with Marco Beltrami only states he worked on 8. Something seems very fishy there. So either Marco really can't accurately remember what he worked on 2 decades ago or fuckery is about.

I guess none of copy paste mygnr news reporters bothered to fact check things.

There's more if you would like to educate yourself here's a link Post in thread 'Unreleased Chinese Democracy Era Songs Definitive List & Information' https://badapplesforum.com/newforum/thr … post-89283

Well if it was co written by Duff it's more likely to be used by Axl since Duff is a member in gnr and the partnership.
Giving Izzy money for his contributions or just reworking the song from Izzy parts would eliminate his writing credentials no ?

How is Monsters Soul Monster ?
I don't believe it is but since it's named Monsters and a lyric has the word Soul in it it must be Soul Monster according to your pal Soulmonster and the mygnr folks correct ?

Btw i have proven Marco Beltrami memory on what songs he worked not to be reliable if you were planning going down that route i can happily direct you or copy paste the information here.

Well Nothin' has the line Down By The Sea in the song isn't that the same criteria ?

Did you know in Webster's dictionary Monstrosity literally means Monster in the english language ?

Or that Guns N' Roses had 2 songs back to back on uyi 1 with garden in it !
Track 11 The Garden  Track 12 Garden Of Eden. To quote Johnny Carson...Wild Stuff ! ( that's for you James)

I was told by a source a week ago Nothin'  was Down By The Ocean and until Sp1at who i respect and i know is reputable said it wasn't it was making sense to me.

Is that fair, can you see it from my perspective ?

I'm not 100% right and have been wrong with information but people forget who first told them about Children Of The Revolution and many other things.

Btw in hindsight doesn't seem like Nothin' and Atlas were supposed to be released on June 6th 2025 to support the tour and on the 40th anniversary of gnr first show ?

Izzy wasn't credit on Velvet Revolver's Contraband and we know he contributed to it, Also that Scott Weiland is credited as writing all the vocals on Contraband.

I wrote Duff has the dat tapes you above wrote he maybe has them but then brought up how his management team got them back in 2019 so I'm confused on what you're saying ?