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#1 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2026 Tour Dates » 10 days ago

polluxlm wrote:

The circus factor of the 2002 band could have worked. It clearly separated old from new. In contrast the 2012 band just looked like a pale version of the old band.

But Axl going for a new look was a mistake. He should have concentrated on looking like he did in the 90s, to create a strong impression of continuity. On the other hand I don't want to be too harsh because the record company really made things difficult for him when they refused to release the album. He spent years building GNR back up from scratch and put a lot of soul and heart into it then he just gets cock blocked by the suits at Interscope. Must have been embarrassing.

He made a last push for it in 2006, then after CD was released he just gave up. No more ambitions. Just a nostalgia band, and that's when the reunion started looking like a better deal.

The frustrating thing for me is that in retrospect the suits were kinda right to try and push for the reunion in the '00s, since plainly Slash and Duff clearly aren't averse to playing the sort of stuff that Axl was pushing for in the 90s/00s. As evidenced by the fact that they're playing Absurd, Nothin', Madagascar etc on the tours. There's a parallel universe where Axl and Slash reconciled in 2006, we got a Axl/Slash/Duff/Fortus/Frank/Pitman lineup back then, and they just… re-recorded the Chinese Democracy sessions and bashed out the album with that lineup. And we'd have got 2006-10-vintage Axl vocals on the reunion tour.

#2 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2026 Tour Dates » 11 days ago

Louder's review pretty much echoes all the forum criticisms:

https://www.loudersound.com/bands-artis … the-greats

Shave an hour off the setlist
Trim the covers
Focus on the lower-register stuff

#3 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2026 Tour Dates » 2 weeks ago

So, a rough setlist…

It's So Easy
Bad Obsession
Mr Brownstone
Slither
Welcome to the Jungle
<Duff solo spot>
Estranged (reworked for lower register)
Live and Let Die (minus the screams)
Nothin'
This I Love
Yesterdays
Sorry
November Rain
Wichita Lineman
<Slash solo>
Sweet Child O'Mine
Knockin' on Heaven's Door
Don't Cry
Nightrain (reworked for lower register)
Paradise City

Could whack a Fortus solo spot in there to pad out the runtime and give Axl a breather, too.

If you opened the setlist to other Velvet Revolver covers on the grounds that if Weiland can sing it, so can Axl, there's a whole load more stuff you could chuck in the mix. Fall to Pieces, Sucker Train Blues, Set Me Free...

#4 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2026 Tour Dates » 2 weeks ago

I mean, for songs that are predominantly in the lower-register you've got:

It's So Easy
Mr Brownstone
Chinese Democracy
Patience
You're Crazy
Used To Love Her
Bad Obsession

just off the top of my head, based on the stuff Weiland could manage. They might require a bit of tweaking (Weiland tended to use the megaphone on It's So Easy to mask the fact that he couldn't do the outro screams...).

There are a few songs like Sorry and This I Love that are mostly lower-register with a few high bits; they could be tinkered with (or get some female backing singers or Melissa to bolster the higher-register stuff).

When Axl did those shows where he had a cold and had to drop the register, Nightrain and Estranged stood out as being really good, so whack them in too. For covers there's a whole load of stuff you could do, but Slither and Down On The Farm are obvious picks (doubly so if Axl actually sang Slither the way Weiland did...). Live and Let Die, too, if you cut out the big screams in the guitar section.

TBH most of the catalogue could be dropped into a lower register with a bit of effort (Yesterdays?). I think you've got to get WTTJ and Paradise City in the setlist, people will expect them regardless of what Axl sounds like. Probably November Rain, too.

There are a few setlist staples that you probably couldn't do, like YCBM and Civil War, but, well, trim the setlist to two hours and you'd need to lose some stuff anyway.

#5 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2026 Tour Dates » 2 weeks ago

Neemo wrote:

he needs to change the pace and pitch of his delivery...he's not in his 20s anymore and his vocal range isnt as broad anymore

ive been saying that for decades now tho, so its not like hes gonna do that

Dude sounds like me trying to sing GnR songs in the car 16

even robert plant change the delivery of Zepp songs when then reunited for the show in 2007

Yeah, that's the other possibility; just embrace the change in his voice and focus on songs that can be sung in the lower register (which basically limits you to the GN'R stuff Scott Weiland could sing in VR) or rework/detune the songs for a lower register. And pare back the setlists; no-one is crying out for a three hour show full of deep cuts.

It's genuinely baffling they haven't done this already.

#6 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2026 Tour Dates » 2 weeks ago

This is why I remain convinced that the only viable solution for him long term is to lean on AI. Build a model using their vast library of isolated studio vocals and live multitracks, apply it as a filter over his current vocals. He'd effectively be "playing" his own 80s-era vocals like a musical instrument with his current voice, and in theory it wouldn't sound artificial because the vocal tics and dynamics would be the same.

Yeah, it'd renege on the "No Trickery" thing, and people (not unjustly) have a gigantic hate-boner for AI right now, but, well... it wouldn't be doing anyone out of a job because the model would be trained on his own vocals.

No idea if it'd work in a live setting – I'm not sure it could be done in real-time (yet) – but it'd definitely work in studio.

And ultimately it's no worse than Mick Fleetwood (allegedly) hiding a session drummer behind the curtain when "playing" live.

#7 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2026 Tour Dates » 8 weeks ago

James wrote:
faldor wrote:

Pretty solid set list though with the two new songs, Dead Horse, DOTF, etc. I feel like at least those two haven’t been staples at most shows.

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/guns-n-r … ff8c5.html

Welcome to the Jungle
Mr. Brownstone
Bad Obsession
Live and Let Die
(Wings cover)
Slither
(Velvet Revolver cover)
Chinese Democracy
Pretty Tied Up
It's So Easy
Yesterdays
Double Talkin' Jive
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
(Black Sabbath cover)
Nothin'
(Live debut)
Dead Horse
Civil War
(Jimi Hendrix's "Voodoo Child (Slight Return)" outro)
Perhaps
Atlas
(Live debut)
Knockin' on Heaven's Door
(Bob Dylan cover) (with Only Women Bleed Intro, followed by band introductions)
Slash Guitar Solo
Sweet Child o' Mine
November Rain
Patience
New Rose
(The Damned cover) (Duff on vocals)
Down on the Farm
(UK Subs cover)
Don't Cry
Nightrain
Paradise City


Yikes.... it's exhausting just looking at the list.

It's just too much. This isn't 1991.

It'd be fun to speculatively put together a setlist that's 1) about an hour shorter and 2) plays to Axl's strengths. Lots of that lower-register stuff and just the absolute essentials (SCOM, Paradise City etc) from the higher register material.

#8 Re: Guns N' Roses » Atlas & Nothing the last of reworked songs - CD era comes to a close » 20 weeks ago

AgesOfTheIce wrote:
jimmythegent wrote:

If they do release the 6 songs as a 'package', surely Monsters gets an official release and hopefully studio versions of the Seeker and Wichita. How difficult would it be for them to record those 2 covers? A weekends work tops. Would be nice to have studio versions of those 2. That could almost pass as an album. Call it "Not in this lifetime" have it mastered evenly (some songs remixed hopefully) and there's the GN'R reunion album. Children of the Revolution makes it 10 songs.

While it would technically be a weekends work, we saw how sensitive Axl is about releasing recorded stuff these days with the Schenker  album. He did multiple takes and still would only allow 1 out of 3 songs he featured on to be released, and to be frank I understand. There were so many layers placed over his voice, and you can still hear how weak it was underneath.

I remain astonished that he hasn't started using AI as a fix for any vocal issues, in-studio at least. It'd be the work of an afternoon to train up an AI on all his isolated vocal takes from the 80s and 90s, and then they could slap it on his actual vocals as an effect. I mean, fucking YouTubers have already used the basic principle to whip up some fairly convincing stabs at the idea, and they're not working with isolated master tapes.

Sure, it'd be "trickery," but in a world where Roger Taylor and Mick Fleetwood are hiring session drummers to create the illusion that they can still bash away live, I imagine multiple aging singers are already considering it.

#9 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2026 Tour Dates » 20 weeks ago

FlashFlood wrote:

He does a lot with legacy acts but I think that performance has more to do with his connection to Ozzy.  Guy seems to insist on playing on stuff, though. I vaguely recall a Duff interview when Ordinary Man was coming out talking about Watt playing some guitars on the album and it sounded a lot like how he would talk about Frank, so i wonder if that would be a sticking point (outside of Axl’s obvious preference for producer).

Well, he worked with Duff (and Slash) on Ozzy's album. That live line-up was basically the "house band" for Ordinary Man plus Post Malone (who'd already collaborated with Ozzy). So yeah, it looks like more of a tribute thing. Still, there's a connection there.

https://www.guitarworld.com/features/an … ndrew-watt

#10 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2026 Tour Dates » 20 weeks ago

guts wrote:

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Huh, wonder if they're eying Watt as a possible producer for future GN'R material?

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